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[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I… dams? To stop the entirety of the country from being flooded and underwater… are… useless? Cuz fuck it we don’t need land.

Water bridges to allow commerce in ports is… also useless? Fuck it we don’t need trade/commerce.

Trains are useless? Fuck if we don’t need efficient transportation or trade!

Wild

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 6 months ago

No see he said innovative benefit. So obviously the problem is that they arent plastered in advertisements for boner pills. You gotta innovate!

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trains aren't innovative, they are boring and old. Why not teleporters?

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Silly tankie, that's inventive. Innovative means improving on existing technology, like not making any changes to the actual tech but finding a way to squeeze more money from it

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago

Imagine a government not run by lawyers...

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

it's a state run by capitalist vs a state run by communists, no lawyer no engineer nonsense

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 months ago

People are so used to the US government being the party scene from Society (1989) that they forget how governance works

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

pretty much yeah. the CPC is a very broad cross section of Chinese society, including lots of both engineers and lawyers.

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 36 points 6 months ago (3 children)

How do you look at infrastructure and say, "that's bad, actually."?

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Bad infrastructure is infrastructure for trains, ie. for poor people.

Good infrastructure is when highway.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Because the capitalists aren't allowed to exploit it for profit

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

yeah, in a government run by lawyers, all the innovation is finding ways to craft legislation and plaintiffs so all that ever happens is paid attorneys talking passed each other in front of former attorneys, who are waiting for the moment to insert their ideology into a decision.

I'd rather have a giant public works project to go look at, not to mention, all the people who got paid to build it aren't asshole lawyers.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, there is a pretty big differences in how a lawyer run society tends to solve social issues and how an engineer run society tries to solve issues. In my country, most of our parliament is lawyers, and they try to solve every issue with either more detailed legislation (a favourite of theirs, just after complaining that legislation has gone too far and needs to be cut back) or with more/heavier enforcement. From what I can read about other countries dominated by lawyers and libs, they tend to see things the same way. In China, the people that run the country tend to have a lot of engineering education / experience, so they usually try to avoid using cops / legislation to solve social issues, and instead try to nudge people through infrastructure instead. From what i can see in videos, China seems to have taken a smarter approach to traffic and congestion than most western countries.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ultimately you need both. You need to have simple, clear policies and open and fair enforcement of those policies (Say what you are going to do and do what you said you were going to do), and then also invest in the physical infrastructure to accommodate those policies.

This has been a thing in well-run manufacturing plants for years. The key is to change the ownership structure and eliminate the ideas of infinite growth and rising profits.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago

having worked with nothing but engineers my entire life, keep those psychopaths away from all positions of authority

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd take a million Rudy Giulianis and Alan Dershowitzs over ONE Xi any day.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

I agree. Can you imagine how much evil the US could accomplish if it weren't for the one million clones of Rudy Giuliani and Alan Dershowitz who are somehow all fighting each other?

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

very-intelligent we need a government run by engineers like my-hero

wojak-nooo not like that! some-controversy

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

Me, looking at a country that went from being one of the most impoverished places on earth to being a technological and industrial superpower within a human lifetime: "Man, those people can't govern for shit."

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Lawyers can be good too! lenin-laugh fidel-sarcastic

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, where the hell are the highway widening projects? How do you expect to innovate transportation if you’re not adding that one more lane that will eliminate congestion?

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

50-lanes

China has you covered on that too

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That's the G4 highway, which is a four lane highway before and after this toll booth, scroll north and south on the map and you'll see (the overlay on google maps is a little misaligned for me).

This image was captured right after "golden week", when the traffic was unusually bad heading out of the city. Presumably holiday traffic is the reason they built fifty lanes of toll booth.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Thank you for adding the clarification. This was intended to be a joke post that China is fully capable of adding absurd amounts of lanes if they want. I was aware but should have provided the fact check in my comment as I wrongly assumed people had already seen this before

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

For the record I did think it was a funny joke, but I wasn't aware of the context of the image myself until I reverse-image searched it, and I just wanted to share what I found with the other people in the thread.

[–] MidnightPocket@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Carl@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

the picture's a little misleading. The highway is a four lane highway, it's just the toll booth that goes out to fifty lanes (twenty five in each direction, only half visible in this image)

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

xigma-male with grillman characteristics

[–] DerEwigeAtheist@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

I mean, at least those examples (which, he does not explain why they are bad) actually do exist in real life, you know. As opposed to like the US where I goes ,you could post a stroad? That's very USian. Also, he does even post anything his prefered kind of goverment has build. It's just taken for granted.

(Also, his cathegories are shit, and what tf is "innovative benefit", how will that feed me?)

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

little innovative benefit

ie building tech that works now instead of waiting for VCs to fund gadgetbahns

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

“Where’s the consoom?! WhErE’s MuH iNnOvOoOoOoshunz!?!?!?”

I think people who’s job it is to innovate know more about it than you. Welcome to logic, westoid. Turns out to solve problems, you don’t reinvent the wheel for the sake of it.