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[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 104 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If I was governor I'd do it anyway. EOs are not decrees

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Just scream "states rights" and ignore the fed. Works for fascism.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't even a state's rights issue. Executive orders are just memos for the federal executive branch, not laws or decrees or anything that has any weight beyond 'this is how we will enforce the laws already passed'.

The states should just say 'that isn't how executive orders work' instead of pretending that there is some federal vs state issue.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

States don't need to say anything. The executive order is weightless. State law trumps executive orders automatically. The states will just go on with life, their laws are still laws.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They should absolutely speak up and say that the order means nothing to the states. Silence is consent when the news is acting like it means something.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not even remotely within the prevue of an EO. Its a show so that he can rail against those states insolence.

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Wasting state AG's time so they can't do anything actually productive

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't it just a bit suspicious that the industry is preemptively asking for deregulation? It's like they know they're going to do some shady shit and want to make sure no pesky laws get in the way.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Everything about the llm industry is suspicious and predatory. They're doing something that is not only unpopular, it's not just going to put people out of work. People are doing to die. And not in the vague economic sense of "40k extra deaths per point drop in the stock market" sense. I mean in the direct "AI directly caused these deaths and there's no other way to look at it" sense. I'm not sure how, when, or why. But I am sure that the people pushing LLMs the way they are do. And they're trying to establish a legal protection for when that happens.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's already driven multiple people to panic attacks, one woman to committing herself out of fear of a psychotic break, and several people to suicide and at least one murder.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But... "states' rights!"

I keep waiting for Republicans to revolt, but then I remember they're Republicans.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If they possessed actual virtues, morals, or ethics, they wouldn't be conservatives.

[–] TrippyHippyDan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

If it's not about being racist, sexist, or overly religious then states don't get rights apparently.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

The party of states' rights and fiscal conservatism never was.

[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Where are the Libertarians now?

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 14 points 1 week ago

When the law no longer pretends to serve the people, it loses a big part of it's social power.

Many people in power today don't seem to really understand the nature of power.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember, this is what they are doing publicly, right out in the open.

We have a black budget system where rule of law doesn't matter... AI is already killing people, controlling warbots, and more. If we are very, very lucky, we'll know the "truth" in 50 years or so.

Do you know what the CIA did after FOIA became a problem? They burned the vast majority of records, with the tidbits they "missed" being truly horrifying. I personally think it was a message, the message being "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here".

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The "states rights" people will just ignore this PR move like they do with everything else he does.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

So that title is technically false. Executive Orders apply to the operation of the federal government only, Trump has not blocked anything.

Trump signed an order which claims to be blocking. Trump attempted blocking.