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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 95 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Party pooper: Consuming alcohol significantly increases your chance of getting cancer. To the point that it compares with asbestos, radiation and tobacco.

https://www.partnershipagainstcancer.ca/topics/alcohol-policies/background-statistics/

https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health

https://www.aacr.org/patients-caregivers/progress-against-cancer/americans-largely-unaware-of-link-between-consumption-of-alcoholic-beverages-and-risk-of-cancer/

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/alcohol-use-cancer-risk

A recent study counters that info a little bit (says there isn't a link for some cancers) but it's important to note that the study is still disputed. Also, cancer is on top of liver and heart disease, dementia and many other things that alcohol is known to directly increase.

You should do your best to reduce your alcohol consumption or cut it out completely - if you care about your health.

[–] zout@fedia.io 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To the point that it compares with asbestos, radiation and tobacco.

This is kind of ambiguous; it's in the IARC group 1, which indeed includes asbestos and radiation. It also includes a lot of other things, like therapeutical hormones, many viruses and bacteria, being a firefighter, leather dust, being a painter, processed meat, wood dust, plutonium, vinyl chloride and outdoor air pollution.

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[–] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 19 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I clicked one of the links, and read the study.

450ml of liquor per week isn't light to moderate by most definitions? If you don't drink 2 nights a week that's 5 medically significant binges per week, every week. One "drink" in this context is 1oz (~29ml). Most of the doctors I've been to, when asking how much you drink, will even ask of you have 15 drinks per week. They cut that off at 7+.

While a lot of us don't know the link to cancer, I'd imagine most of us know there's something there.

I'm fine with doing alcohol like we did cigarettes, I was just kinda shocked that they called "5 medically significant binges per week" light to moderate drinking??? Even when I was drinking an amount that people were talking about doing an intervention for, it was less than half of that (1oz (29.5ml) per day)

[–] Today@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People wanted to intervene because you were drinking one short shot per day?

Yep. Admittedly they didn't know how much I was drinking, just how often, compared to the fact that I only drink a couple times a month most of the time.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

450ml of liquor per week isn't light to moderate by most definitions?

If you read the one published by the WHO, It says "light" to "moderate" is less than 450ml, presumably meaning 450ml and over is considered "heavy" (which more or less lines up with 2 drinks a day.)

Generally, light is considered to be 1 drink a day, moderate is 1.5 and heavy is 2. So 1 drink a day is the cause of half of all alcohol-attributable cancers (according to the WHO).

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

450ml of what? 1oz of what? 100% ethanol? Drinks and liquor vary extremely widely and has no definition.

[–] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Liquor is commonly understood to be 40-50% ABV

None of this is really exact anyway. This is what doctors seem to go on

  • 40%, 1.5oz liquor
  • 12% 5oz wine
  • 7%, 8oz malt liquoe
  • 5%, 12oz beer

The problem is the beer I usually drink is in a 24 ounce can, and has 9.8% abv, and I don't know a single person who would call that 4 drinks (which it is! One drink is .6oz of ethanol, and that can of beer has 2.4oz of ethanol)

Doctors try to get people to accurately report their lives because people aren't thinking about this. I remember there was a place (Scotland maybe?) where they put how many "Units" of alcohol were in drinks, which I think is a good idea for these kinds of things. A unit seemed to be that 0.6oz (~17ml) of ethanol you get if you do the math on the earlier measurements.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The WHO did a meta analysis, which is how they came to their conclusion.

The title "No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health" is slightly misleading though, since they focused on typical alcoholic beverages. There is no statement about alcohol in fruits.

Bottom line:
Drinking even a little bit of safe? Likely no.
Eating : unknown

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From the WHO article:

Ethanol (alcohol) causes cancer through biological mechanisms as the compound breaks down in the body, which means that any beverage containing alcohol, regardless of its price and quality, poses a risk of developing cancer.

Risks start from the first drop

To identify a “safe” level of alcohol consumption, valid scientific evidence would need to demonstrate that at and below a certain level, there is no risk of illness or injury associated with alcohol consumption. The new WHO statement clarifies: currently available evidence cannot indicate the existence of a threshold at which the carcinogenic effects of alcohol “switch on” and start to manifest in the human body.

So no, you're wrong, it specifically says your example is not "safe". They said "beverage", but consuming alcohol laden fruit would fall in the same category. The same would go for many "non-alcoholic" beers which are <0.5% alcohol, and many other things like kombucha, baked goods, chocolate, etc. You can debate whether they're correct or not, but they were very clear that tiny amounts are not safe.

Now, it's all about risk. And the more alcohol consumed, the higher the risk of developing cancer. The question is at what point the benefits outweigh the risk. Benefits could range from vitamins, minerals, fiber and healthy compounds, to reduced social anxiety and other psychological factors.

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[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is binging on fruits a thing humans do?

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[–] CanadaPlus 5 points 1 week ago

TBF ingesting anything that's not what the orifice in question is intended for might be harmless, but probably isn't. Don't breath smoke, don't drink a concentrated light organic compound.

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[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Recreating scientific studies that have been funded by large corporations is very difficult and disproving or countering any findings are less common because to apply the scientific method properly is beyond skill and know how, it’s down to money.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm a researcher myself, so I feel like I can weigh in on the "reproducibility crisis". There are several facets to it: One is of course money, but that's not just related to corporately funded research. Good luck finding or building an independent lab capable of reproducing the results at CERN. It basically boils down to the fact that some (a lot of) research is insanely expensive to do. This primarily applies to experiments and to some degree to computationally expensive stuff.

Another side is related to interest. Your average researcher is fired up by the thought of being the first person to discover and publish something no one has seen before. It's just not as fun to reproduce something someone else has already done. Even if you do, you're likely to try to improve on it somehow, which means the results may change without directly invalidating the old results. It can be hard work to write a good paper, so if you don't feel your results are novel enough that they're worth the effort (because they're basically just equivalent to previously published values) you might not bother to put in the effort to publish them.

Finally, even without direct reproduction of previously published results, science has a way asymptotically approaching some kind of truth. When I develop and publish something, I'm building on dozens of previously published works. If what they did was plain wrong, then my models would also be liable to fail. I've had cases where we've improved on previously published work, not because we tried to reproduce it, but because we tried to build on their results, and found out that their results didn't make sense. That kind of thing is fairly common, but not reported as a "reproduction study".

There's also review articles that, while they don't do any reproduction themselves, collect and compare a bunch of comparable work. They usually have some conclusions regarding what results appear trustworthy, and what appear to be erroneous.

[–] brunchyvirus@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've always considered sciences like psychology to be more susceptible to the reproducibility crisis. It seems if someone decides to pursue a career in academia the criteria becomes publishing, and well publish or perish as is goes.

I think some researchers areocing towards things like prerigistering hypothesis and open data+publishing source code for calculations and using that as references in there paper so it can be updated afterwards.

They're have definitely been a lot of papers where results were later determined to be wrong but is still referenced because well you can't update a paper from the 1970s.

This is hearsay from friends I've never done any serious research or published in journals. As a side note I do enjoy reading taking a scroll through https://retractionwatch.com/

[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Slightly unrelated tirade:

Background in psychology here: Psychology and sociology are also terrifyingly hard fields to pin down. Any one human's behavior can be wildly inconsistent within a given set of parameters, and ppl evolve across time. Cultural context and social expectations come into play at and individual level.

Add in individual sensitivities to authority, understanding of a request, general intelligence, and you get massively varied outcomes that may change as a person grows and changes.

Then, for sociology, pile on group pressures and tendencies, plus group think and group cultural context (I have no background in sociology).

I truly believe psychology and sociology are great fields of study, that yield light on human truths. That said, from a technical scientific perspective, I think it's nigh impossible to measure their value the same way as you would for mathematics or physics. At least, without finding a way to apply those fields to psychology lol

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago

Replicating results is a problem across the board; I’m sure money is a factor but it’s not just the chocolate-sponsored-by-Hershey studies that have replication challenges.

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[–] bonenode@piefed.social 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is very basic science but is exactly why I think it should become more common knowledge.

You can make water evaporate with just light, no heat needed.

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have done published computer science research and am therefore a scientist.

I recently discovered that to keep potted basil plants from the grocery store alive longer, I must water them correctly: Every day you must fully soak under room temperature water, then hold over sink until it stops dripping.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk about where you are, but basil plants sold in grocery stores by me are always way way too densely planted. They throw like 25 seeds in one small pot, which puts out a lot of foliage to look good for a very short window. If you harvest basil like you are "supposed to", any regrowth becomes basically impossible, and the plants die. The better way is to just cut off whole stems until there's only one or two. Or, if you want to keep a basil plant, just buy one from a gardening store, not a grocery store.

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[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Grocery store basil normally has about 3 plants (like the other person is saying). For best success, buy the SMALLEST plans, and un pot them when you get home. Shake them apart, but be carefull with the roots. A few broken minor roots is OK, but try not to break the major roots. Then plant them separately into their own pots. When watering, do not water from the top. Get a pot with multiple drain hole at the bottom edges (not the singular center hole kind) and place it in a watering saucer. Fill the saucer and let the soil wick up the water. This makes it easy to see when it needs water and makes it basically impossible to over or under water, just keep the saucer fill. Try to keep the plants in a warm and humid place if possible.

If you do it right, it ends up being easier to maintain and grows larger plants. If you want to look into how to grow the biggest basil plants then look into the pruning techniques to encourage growth. I have grown some monster basil bushes and they all started from grocery store plants unless I wanted a specific type.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] beSyl@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Specifically, vaccination for herpes zoster. I will be trying to get my parents vaccinated for that. Dunno if they already are.. Is it a "mandatory/suggested" vaccine in the EU? I need to check.

That is a relatively new vaccine. In the US, that's part of what you get as a kid now (not going to fact check the current guidance cause im afraid to look), but if you're old enough to have actually gotten chickenpox, you likely havent gotten the vaccine unless you asked for it.

In my experience in the US, it seems like Dr's dont really keep up with recommendations once you are over 18.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 32 points 1 week ago

There have been some recent studies on Dementia/Alzheimer's that seem quite important for prevention, such as the link with inflammation such as periodontosis and viral infections..

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

First Leukemia patient got healed

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Leukemia patients have been successfully treated for the last 30 years.

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Does the research into that only a handful of companies are the main source of earth's pollution count?

Or that working less hours makes you more effective?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Alzheimer's is reversible.

Per the study posted yesterday which i do not have handy but some enterprising soul may care to search for.

[–] CanadaPlus 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

X to doubt.

You can find single studies claiming all kinds of crazy things. It keeps the popsci sites in business and apparently looks good to whoever is employing the yahoo researchers in question.

If there's a credible medical breakthrough you'll know because all kinds of scientists won't shut up about it. After CRISPR was discovered back in 2016, it was absolutely everywhere for months.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It was from Case Western, fwiw, not livescience or fortean times. But yeah, it sounds so astounding i also have doubts. And yet. What a breakthrough.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It seems that many people suffering from Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia experience occasional short episodes of lucidity (especially when nearing death).

This suggests that memories, personality, and reasoning ability might not be (entirely?) destroyed, but simply inaccessible or unable to work properly, and that if the root cause for this malfunction could be treated a partial or even total recovery might be indeed possible...

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[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

I will wait for multiple replications in different populations before getting my hopes up.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

It's just mice.

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[–] Jimm@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)
  1. A brand-new quantum state of matter discovered Scientists have observed something called the “pinball state” a weird quantum phase where electrons behave partly like they’re stuck and partly like they’re free, like pieces in a pinball machine. This was only theorized before, and seeing it in the lab helps us understand exotic quantum physics and could eventually influence future tech like quantum computers. Popular Mechanics
  2. Robots help find potential new antibiotics Using automated chemistry and “click chemistry,” researchers rapidly created hundreds of metal based compounds and identified ones that kill dangerous bacteria much more effectively than some current drugs. That’s a promising step toward new antibiotics for drug-resistant infections.
  3. Hidden ocean layer discovered in the Atlantic Oceanographers uncovered a previously unrecognized body of water deep below the equatorial Atlantic’s surface not a separate ocean, but a distinct layer that changes how we think about ocean circulation and could affect climate models.
  4. Some microplastics-in-the-body studies are being seriously questioned High-profile scientific claims that tiny plastic particles are everywhere inside the human body are now facing criticism: scientists warn that earlier results may have been contaminated or misinterpreted, showing how careful research still matters in this field.
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Nr 4 sounds just like tobacco companies questioning if smoking causes cancer.

[–] Canigou@jlai.lu 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Awesome ! Could we have some sources, pretty please ? ^^

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tinnitus has been cured....just kidding...screeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Oh man, you just got my hopes up long enough for me to finish reading that sentence. Sad sigh.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That clickbait'y titles are clickbait'y?

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