Luddites were good actually
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Yeah, but they teach us he was bad without explaining why he did what he did aside from a vague "He hated machines"
I was led to believe the luddites were like the Amish and they had like, a religious opposition to technology.
No, it was a targetted movement where they believed the technological advances were replacing good jobs with little benefit to the community. I don't know the details but I believe they accepted new technologies when it was displacing dangerous labour. I imagine it's not dissimilar to discussions we're having right now about more or less the same issues!
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Apparently they just didn’t want their labor replaced with machines so they’d be out of the job, but the propaganda (“tHeY jUsT oPpOsE pRoGrEsS”) is the story that survived within the imperial core.
So there is actually a strong analogue here with actors and writers not wanting to be replaced with LLM chatbot or image-generative AIs. Adam actually is a Luddite, in a sense, and it seems weird to me that some cringelib is clamoring for something that will replace them as well, they just don’t know it yet.
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luddites are reactionary according to marx
but what is happening here with the unions is seizing AI tech for the benefit of workers, not the corporations. the contract explicitly allows writers to use it as they wish, but cannot be pressured by corporations to use it to meet quotas. it is explicitly not luddite, and is in fact what marx suggests to do with emerging technologies. i fully expect writers to use ai to make their jobs easier going forward and to have something to bounce ideas on without having their jobs endangered.
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The enormous destruction of machinery that occurred in the English manufacturing districts during the first 15 years of this century, chiefly caused by the employment of the power-loom, and known as the Luddite movement, gave the anti-Jacobin governments of a Sidmouth, a Castlereagh, and the like, a pretext for the most reactionary and forcible measures. It took both time and experience before the workpeople learnt to distinguish between machinery and its employment by capital, and to direct their attacks, not against the material instruments of production, but against the mode in which they are used.TL;DR We shouldn't destroy the machines, we should seize them from the ruling class.
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There's a bunch of people like that on Reddit who are convinced AI is taking over every industry and people trying to push back against AI techbros taking advantage are luddites afraid of change. Pretty sure those office workers will be the first to lose their jobs.
They are luddites in the sense that the Luddites were cool as fuck
I kept using the term luddite for so long until I read about the actual luddites; it's crazy how relatable they are and yet they've been smeared so thoroughly.
See also: capitalists' definition of "anarchist"
WE'RE NOT LUDDITES!!!!! TL;DR We shouldn't destroy the machines, we should seize them from the ruling class.
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Critical support for Adam's stupid fucking face, I guess.
How's that post go again
If I have to get exposed to the political opinions of a 14 year old again, I'm going to scream?
I remember when we first set up shop here and I realized there were actual teenagers amogus. I threw up in my mouth a little with the idea of talking to someone half my age without realizing it.
Good news is it's 3 years later and they've all likely grown into full people at this point.
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That is a literal child. Like, it says 16 in their bio.
Children should not be allowed to use the internet.
Synthesis: Children should be able to use a little bit of internet, as a treat.
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If you're old enough to drive a tractor and ride a moped on public roads, you're old enough to get mildly dunked on by an obscure internet forum you'll never even hear of.
Sorry, I don't make the rules.
If you publish a public take on unions, you should be praised or bullied as an adult
MSN-using millennials should recognisethe blue checks are all so mad because they would die to simply be hooked up to an AI powered slop hose that gives them a batman movie every day no matter its quality
EDIT: Sorry I meant Batgirl.
But does it give you the cancelled Catwoman?
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literally not luddite, the union contract permits writers to use AIs when it benefits themselves
They're 16 years old. It's perfectly natural to be a complete idiot when you're a child. I was a bog-standard libertarian at their age, there's still plenty of time to turn around.
Idk when I was 16 I was the normal sort of stupid 16 yos are, not this hilterlite trash
Yes but also it's in black and white in the Constitution:
"The right to consume treats shall not be infringed."
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Love calling someone a Luddite while he made a video with a phone to post it on social media, very Luddite indeed
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I really don't know how liberals can square the circle with their whole "we are the furthest left in this country and you need to vote for us to stop fascism" bullshit.
What even is fascism to them? They don't seem to care about anything other than when Trump did mean tweets.
Biden has given more money to the police after BLM, Biden has drilled more oil, he started a new war, ended COVID help, is still detaining and separating families at the border, union busting...
The list is long
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the luddites were worried that industrialisation would lower standards of living for the english lower classes. The industrial revolution then did that
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