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With reports that the witnesses in today’s murder by ICE were all detained (and their phones presumably confiscated), I’ve been thinking nonstop about if I were to record ICE or the cops doing something, how could I ensure that any videos I record are not able to be deleted, assuming my phone was confiscated? I’m talking about specific tactics.

My phone runs iOS. I already have a strong passcode which hopefully makes brute forcing difficult. I use ADP and the only thing I back up automatically are photos and videos. In theory, I think my setup is fairly secure, since it would be hard to get into my phone or my iCloud account. But I don’t know what vulnerabilities or tools I may be missing.

I’m asking for iOS, but I think it’s good to discuss Android and GrapheneOS as well.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://tella-app.org/ not capable of live streaming yet, but otherwise does all the activist safety and witnessing. Open source, can sync to clouds, but currently requires manual triggering.

Kinda stepping into the gap the ACLU left behind. Worth looking at

[–] Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

That looks pretty great, actually.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

if you want to be really super sure then you live stream the video. That's how it was done at occupy.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Encryption is good but even better is uploading it somewhere as soon as humanly possible

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

set up the cloud app of your choice to upload automatically as soon as the files come in. i'd recommend anything from outside the jurisdiction you are protesting against, just in case. ideal scenario is a trusted party has access.

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[–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Set up syncthing on your phone and whatever other device (laptop/pc/another phone at home/etc). Point it to your photos/videos folder and sync to your device at home(or friend's house). If your phone is confiscated and they manage to get it deleted from the cloud, you'll have a copy on your device. Make sure you enable settings like trashcan or versioning so the files deleted on your phone aren't auto deleted on the device.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Also set it not to sync deletions

[–] BlackCat@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This. One-way sync to a home server/NAS or secure cloud storage that is not logged into on your phone (e.g. if you sync to NAS or a cloud service, don't be logged in on other apps/web).

if your phone is taken while filming, it Won't upload until it's done recording. The agents will probably hit stop, then delete. you'd have to do some testing to see if that will stop the sync.

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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago

Auto upload to a remote location (e.g. VPS), ideally somewhere out of the country to really minimise chances of deletion. Could also have it auto upload to several places. You'll need good enough internet connection to upload it though, so if they're using signal jammers at a protest that could be a problem.

In terms of preventing deletion on the phone itself, you can't really stop them from "losing" your phone, even if they can't get into it.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Take a burner and live stream. Do not keep any sensitive info or log into anything other than the live streaming platform.

If you have your personal phone on you TURN IT OFF when law enforcement is nearby. The most secure state for your phone is before you unlock it after it boots up. The first unlock decrypts it and makes it much more vulnerable.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where do you livestream? I'm trying to find a service that isn't shit.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Twitch.tv is most peoples preffered option. Theyre corporate, so i would be surprised if violence doesnt violate their tos, but i see protest livestreams all the time so idk. It also automatically saves a video of your livestream for two weeks iirc

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Ugh. That's the best option I've been able to find, but I really don't trust Amazon to not just immediately roll over for the feds.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago

Live stream

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If your phone is confiscated, you can't count on getting it back. Upload the video to a server or another nearby machine (maybe another phone) as you shoot it. There are apps for that purpose of course.

[–] Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 days ago (6 children)

My videos already sync to iCloud. My concern is if the cops were to get into my phone, they could just go to the Photos app and delete it from the device and my iCloud account.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Disable faceID and secure your phone with a strong alphanumeric pin (which can include spaces to make it easy to remember) of at least thirty characters before going into any sort of situation where you know henchmen will be.

If henchmen get the drop on you and you’re not prepared, then ideally keep a six-digit pin at all times. It’ll be easier to get into, but it’ll still take them lots of work.

[–] j4k3@piefed.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

All of this can be bypassed on most devices except Graphene OS using the tools they now have available.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah fuck.

Well, they’re not immune to getting killed.

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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

iOS has lockdown mode. If you have proof of this being bypassed I’d love to see it.

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[–] Batadon@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago

Send it to someone else maybe, so there is a copy of it that can't be deleted from your phone.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you have access to another device, you can log into icloud.com and remotely log out of the phone.

Files "deleted" from icloud can also be restored on icloud.com/recovery for up to 30 days after deletion.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Auto upload to cloud that someone bas access to. Even Google photos with shared partners will automatically download your partners auto uploaded videos and photos. This should be more than enough until nazis take full control.

[–] happydoors@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is a deep setting on iOS for full encryption of everything. It can make it harder to retrieve your things if you forget your password but that’s exactly what you want here.

[–] happydoors@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, on top of other great ideas. Make sure iCloud sync is on, low battery isn’t, and it should sync if it is topped up enough

[–] SirHax@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago

OP mentioned having ADP and automatic backups enabled and I believe iCloud sync uploads photos continuously. The biggest risk is as you say battery saving and if it will upload data over mobile data (should be a setting for that).

Further than that I would say the big question is if someone else would actually be able to access the data if OP is detained.... and of course https://xkcd.com/538/ (I don't think the random chuds in ICE would have the know how for any technical bypass)

[–] rimu@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A live streaming drone would be ideal.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

live streaming from a phone is very practical. I don't think I'd be flying a drone around

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

On both IOS and android, you can activate the camera without unlocking the phone. On android it's via a double click of the power button, by default. This makes it far more difficult to delete it quickly.

Combined with an auto upload script makes their job a lot harder.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Keep a consistent sync between a server you control and the phone.
Something like immich will make it easy.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago
[–] CascadiaRo@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lots of discussion around encryption states at boot / disabling FaceID

For iOS, Invoking the shutdown dialog (Lock+Volume) or activating Emergency Mode (Lock 5x Fast) puts the device into a “Lockdown” state where FaceID no longer works, PIN authentication is the only means to unlock the device.

[–] Camille_Jamal@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Keeping a live stream going on a burner phone is a good idea, removing biometrics and identifying information from main phone where possible, remote backup to a different location (preferably 1-way) keeping them both in the fully off locked state when not in use. Burner phone should only have your livestream/1-way backup passwords, nothing else. I hope you don’t have to experience this, but better safe than sorry

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Remove any biometrics from your device, its easy to "forget" your pin but you cant forget your fingerprint.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

This isn't realistically helpful. The cops will just smash your phone. OP didn't ask how to keep cops from accessing their video; they asked how to keep cops from deleting/destroying video.

For iOS (and I believe android), triggering an emergency call by hitting the lock button a bunch of times of times also disables faced/touchid

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[–] Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

set up a local VPN on your NAS/file server and add your phone to the VPN. Next, map a local drive on your phone to the NAS. Dunno if you can do that on iOS, but at least on android you can. Disable modify and delete permissions on the NAS folder, so that the phone can only write/read from it, then use a camera app that lets you choose the save location and set it to record video to the network drive. Requires a pretty solid connection, but is extremely robust.

[–] hexagonwin 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

map a local drive on your phone to the NAS

how do I do this on android? NFS never seemed to work for me on android.

[–] Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmm, CIFS document provider on fdroid might work?

[–] hexagonwin 1 points 1 day ago

i've tried it before, it's very unstable and prone to connection issues. only kinda works for manual file copying and still very slow. was wondering if you had some setup that works well

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

ADP is good. Use the iCloud foto upload. In the settings of the fotos app enable unlimited mobile data. In the mobile network settings enable „more data over 5G“. After recording if possible go to the fotos app and tell it to continue syncing if it stops because you are on battery or not on wifi, which it still sometimes does despite the settings. Before someone takes your phone click the side button five times. That disables faceid and makes it harder to unlock with spy tools.

Also in the Face ID settings:

Disable masks

Enable require attention (if the phone still accepts faceid and someone holds it to your face to unlock it, close your eyes and keep them closed. Don’t squint.)

Enable „erase data“ (after 10 attempts. Makes it practically impossible to bruteforce the phone).

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Just livestream. Be ready to live stream. Test that live streaming works ahead of time. Have a lockdown mode setup on your phone. Remember to vote. Make sure some IRL friends and out of state comrades will how to find your live stream. Make sure people know you're out and expecting you back in group chats.

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