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Ones that come to mind for me are Vegas, Toronto, Paris

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Dubai is the most liminal fucking city in the world. If a hospital corridor was a city, it would be Dubai.

The opposite of this would be Hanoi. That's a city where each street feels like a living, breathing animal.

As someone who grew up and lived in Dubai in the 80s to the late 2000s I cannot find fault in your assessment.

[–] textik@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fucking Dallas, TX. Of all the major cities in North America, Dallas is the most devoid of culture. It is a city inhabited by cars, not people. If you took the average of all North American cities, it would be Dallas, but not in a way that derives any value from the cities included in the average. If you asked an LLM to generate an American metroplex, you would get a low-resolution, but otherwise one-to-one map of Dallas and Ft. Worth. Dallas is the backrooms except with a clear view of the sky.

[–] Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Dallas is Night City without the cool tech or culture, just the crushing capitalism and roads..

Edit: I wrote this on a base level comment but I'm going to put it here too:

Dallas is a soulless corpse where you can't walk anywhere due to highways, but it you use the highways then it's like trying to dodge clicking on sketchy ads trying to trick you to click them on PC, except the ads are toll roads. Also every car is trying to kill you. I tried to go to a music show once. It was in a really run down part of town with sketchy people standing around staring at us. There was no signage. We weren't even sure we were in the right place and no one looked friendly so we just left, and got hit by more surprise tolls on the way back. You can't leave your house there without having to pay money. It is the most miserable place I've ever been.

[–] Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Dallas is a soulless corpse where you can't walk anywhere due to highways, but it you use the highways then it's like trying to dodge clicking on sketchy ads trying to trick you to click them on PC, except the ads are toll roads. Also every car is trying to kill you.

I tried to go to a music show once. It was in a really run down part of town with sketchy people standing around staring at us. There was no signage. We weren't even sure we were in the right place and no one looked friendly so we just left, and got hit by more surprise tolls on the way back. You can't leave your house there without having to pay money. It is the most miserable place I've ever been.

Second runner up is Port Arthur, Texas. Going to take the scenic route down the coast, are you? Well it's nothing but pipes and smoke stacks. You can see only a little bit of the marsh that used to be there. The city itself is run down, rotting houses leaning sideways with the pipes and industry always being in the backdrop. Clearly the town is receiving no tax money from the oil corporations infesting their coast in what would otherwise be a nice place. It was a mostly black population I saw outside. Inside stores the people I saw wearing plant uniforms were white or Hispanic and clearly didn't live in the immediate area. The story writes itself.

I Google the town and it turns out it used to be a nice place with a little permanent carnival on the coast with a ferris wheel and rides with a flourishing tourist industry, but all those people who could afford it moved out when the oil industry moved in and drained the town. Now the only people there are the ones who can't get out.

It was the most depressing town I've ever been through.

God I fucking hate Texas.

[–] sqauffle@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

I'm from Dallas and this is exactly how is describe it too. It's an absymally failed attempt to create a human society.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I used to be a trucker, and ya Dallas had bad vibes. It was always so sad seeing all the stray dogs running around.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 87 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

Salt Lake City, Utah. Utterly gorgeous, but strongly reconsider moving there if you aren't a Mormon. The whole valley/arguably state has a constant fog of oppressively bad juju looming over it, despite being truly breathtaking.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Relevant but I'm currently going down this Bricks & Minifigs vs Ben rabbit hole and wow these mormons are creepy as fuck.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Their entire history is insanely, deeply fucked in ways most people don't realize. Dating back to the very beginning.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Do you have any recommended reading?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

So, so much. My very long comment got wiped before I could finish--I was trying to find an old 1800s newspaper account from the Library of Congress, so consider yourself lucky I'm relegated to a phone keyboard. I'm working on a book myself, so I've got huuuuuundreds of sources, but many of them are historic and hard to share conveniently. For a quick variety:

Fifteen Years Among the Mormons by Mary Ettie V. Smith (1860) is one of the most breathtaking page-turners I've ever read. Like many works that touch on history Mormons don't like, they've been very successful at whitewashing this to a mere "unfair anti-Mormon polemic," but...eh. Very complicated, but it really has the ring of truth to me compared to other similar sources. That's the source of the screenshot re: SLC.

Exposé of Polygamy in Utah: A Lady’s Life among the Mormons by Fanny Stenhouse (1872) is a favorite. She had a sharp wit.

No Man Knows My History by Fawn Brodie (1945) was a nuclear bomb of a book.

In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith (1997) goes into the MINIMUM 33 girls and women Smith "celestially wed," including minors, mother-daughter pairs, etc...

For a much more accessible option, look up Mormon Stories on YouTube. The church recently sued them, so you know they're good. And lest you sneeze at that, the Mormons successfully forced fucking WIKILEAKS to take down one of the church's internal instruction manuals (it's copyrighted material of the literal legal corporation that is the Mormon church). They've got crazy money, crazy connections. You've no idea.

Look up what was the first Sherlock Holmes book (Part 2) and ask yourself why captive Mormon women became such a theme then. In the UK!? Yup. And so much more.

Did you know that the Mormon church owns 2% of the landmass of Florida? Like right now?

I'm just trying to say: it's a deeeeep fucking rabbit hole.

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Definitely SLC. Hands down.

Shit is like walking through the looking glass.

And not in the cool, drug-induced way. Not like that at all.

[–] JeanValjean@piefed.social 16 points 5 days ago

I lived in Provo for 2 years. I'd still be there if not for the Mormons.

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[–] Lazer365@feddit.nl 9 points 3 days ago

Memphis, TN. There was literally no one there on the streets and the high crime didn’t make it any more appealing. Your city really sucks when the best thing to see there is a Bass Pro Shops lol

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Phoenix. Don’t ever make the mistake of moving there or you’ll have a hard time leaving. It’s the closest thing to purgatory I’ve ever experienced. I certainly aged, but I don’t think I matured a day while I was there.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

Council Bluffs, IA. I once had family there and there's a story in our family. One of them had a radio of some sort that works on trucker frequencies and he overheard a conversation between trucker CBs that went something like:

  • "I've never been to Council Bluffs before. What's it like?"
  • "Well, if the earth needed an enema, Bluffs is where they'd put the tube."

It used to be a railroad town, but the railroad pulled out and left economic carnage in its wake. Meanwhile, Omaha, just across the river, is comparatively very affluent with skilled jobs in tech, so Bluffs is kindof "the slums" (casualties of the worst end of capitalism.) and Omaha is all gentrified and hip, which rubs salt in the wound, and those who are still in Bluffs are the ones who lacked the wherewithal (luck, credit (social, financial, or otherwise), mental health, etc) to move to Omaha. Last time I was in Bluffs (and that was even before I knew the rail background story) it really felt like there was just a pall over the whole place. The strangers you saw at the grocery store or whatever just seemed "down and out" in an undefinable way. The local government seems some combination of corrupt and incompetent and the few folks I know of who still live in Bluffs there are racists and MAGA nuts and grifters and (I say this with love) deeply mentally ill. It's a disturbingly strange and depressing place.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Charlotte, NC. That place is still segregated

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Trenton, NJ
Newark, NJ
actually just the whole New Jersey

wait no Asbury Park is nice.

most of New Jersey

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Bakersfield California, drive through it once. It was like someone was making the most depressing movie about drugs and prostitution and dilapidated infrastructure so they built Bakersfield to be the backdrop

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'd describe it as "bad vibes", but Detroit has always struck me as charmingly postapocalyptic. It's the only place I've ever seen fires in barrels in the middle of streets in real life.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wow, New Orleans? I love that city.

Downtown Clearwater FL has been pretty much taken over by Scientologists and is quite creepy now.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago

I love Nola too but I could see it overwhelming people that are unacquainted or less… let’s say libertine

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I never want to go back to St Louis.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This. Or anywhere near Missouri, for that matter.

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[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Sounds like a great name for a song.

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[–] wieson@feddit.org 16 points 5 days ago

Hagen, NRW.
In front of the train station, 3 casinos. Not shiny ones but rancid slot machine cellars.
Smashed door of the job centre.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Coeur d’Alene, Idaho but really just the whole panhandle

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Glasgow in the 90s. I live in rural Scotland, but while studying in Edinburgh I used to travel through to see my girlfriend. As soon as I got off the bus I'd get this weird, hostile vibe. I was approached all the time by folk trying to hustle me for money or crazies just being weird AF. The city aggressively prides itself on being friendly, but I always found it intimidating.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I was in Glasgow a fair bit during the Commonwealth Games and the locals were almost aggressively friendly, it was pretty funny. I live in Edinburgh and I like going to Glasgow for a break from all the tourists.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 9 points 4 days ago (7 children)
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