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[–] UserMail@piefed.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I like the NDP and Greens, but I can't vote for them unless their parties merge. They get very little votes here.

If after they merge, pick up a bunch of votes, implement stratgic voting, they could decide to split again afterwards if they wish.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

In my experience the NDP is willing to burn ecological resources for trivial short term gains. They are a worker party, which is fine, but they often treat 'jobs' as a goal in itself, rather than a route to quality of people's lives.

You can make lots of jobs logging old growth and building out fossil fuel infrastructure.

Edit: don't get me wrong, I'll still vote for them over other options, but my heart and wallet are with the Greens.

[–] Levi@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 minutes ago

Yeah, I really don't want Green and NDP to merge. NDP seem to hate the environment. I'd have nobody left to vote for.

[–] Foxer@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Carney is a man who somehow, and I will never know how, convinced NDP voters the voting for an ex banker capitalist whose job it was to renovict people and hide the wealth of the 1% from taxation in Canada was the absolute best choice for progressives and left-wing voters to rally behind

[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

My support for Carney was to keep PP out. Singh did not give me the confidence that he could do that. I still vote NDP at the provincial level (although my riding has been Conservative forever alas) - the federal NDP hasn’t really inspired much confidence but Marit is killing it at the provincial level in Ontario.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

We came very close to a PP government. Too close. I don't like Carney much but Poulivre would have been disastrous. I would rank Singh above both, but my riding was heavily Tory.

[–] BassetHound@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I gave up on the NDP after years of mismanagement. I voted for the party of Jack and was alright with Mulcair. But under Jagmeet the party has been run into the ground.

That year where Jagmeet and the NDP propped up the obviously dead Trudeau government was the final straw. Willfully choosing to support a wildly unpopular prime minister to avoid the election was gross and made a mockery of their name. If you want to be taken seriously as a party and a leader, you have to be in it to win. There could have been an opportunity to become the opposition again and maybe replace the Liberals in time. Instead they chose to sacrifice their own party. If they don’t even want to be a serious party, why the hell should I vote for them?

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago

Why vote NDP? Because even if we concede that all your criticisms of the party are exactly right and unchanged under its new leadership, that still makes them the best of the main parties available to vote for.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 6 points 7 hours ago

Singh unfortunately didn't help the cause much. But I think it was actually Pollievre who helped Carney with such incredible efficiency. I agree, it makes no sense, but PP's innate reality distortion field was apparently large enough to cause some sort of gravitational lensing around Carney too that made him temporarily look like an anti-Trump.

I also think Carney did particularly well on the military topic, especially compared to previous Liberal positions, which might have genuinely appealed to some NDP voters disillusioned with the NDP's traditionally weak stance on defense, in light of the active military threats against us and our allies.

Personally, I understand where the NDP's defense policy is coming from, and I think it's responsible and probably even the right way to approach it holistically. We don't need to beg Europe to partner with us, even if they're obviously willing to, we have everything we need to develop our own military and industry on our own, but it will take time for those investments to pay off, and I get the desire to shortcut some of that with European assistance. But maybe people thought we wouldn't be able to have socialism and kick Trump and Putin's teeth in at the same time. I don't know.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 hours ago

Did anyone expect anything different? He's a child of the 70s and 80s who became a banker and high ranking technocrat. Neoliberalism is his jam.