There was a majority of the people in the USA voting for that political solution. The government is just mirroring the people. Everyone voting in 2024 will have to die before the people of the USA has the chance to become trustable again.
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Nope ,taco said it ,no more elections ,this is over and out
too litte too late for apologies… trust is dead and it would take generations and grovelling to get it back
too much damage has been done, the next dem is likely going to be someone like NEWSOME, which as you know is just old guard DNC.
The stupidity of this administration should never be excused.
I don't know that it would help. The longer Americans keep Trump in power, the more their former allies realize that it isn't "just Trump".
I don't think it will work. Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for not being W Bush and then the USA elected Trump twice.
I think that before any apologies can be made, the next president would have to send trump & his entire administration to trial, convict them, and sentence them.
Also, they would have to work on passing legislation to make sure another trump never happens (remove the loopholes, the excess of power to the executive branch, the corruption in all three branches, citizens united, the heritage foundation).
…and then do an apology tour. Apologies would mean nothing, if four years later we’re in a position to do the same bullshit again. We need to prove that we can be stable, reliable, and resilient. Make sure our house is in order. THAT’S the apology the world needs to hear.
Your comment prompted my memory of what I think Benjamin Franklin said when the country was born. In response to the question of what type of government they'd designed, he said something to the effect of: "A democracy, if you can keep it."
Even then, they were mindful of some of the weaknesses of their grand design
The oligarchy will never charge one of their own, I've been saying this since before Biden went in and we saw first hand they will do nothing to hold him accountable. This is what happens when they all answer to the same people
Meaningless wordy apologies piss me off.
Apologize with actions.
Yeah probably, some will keep a grudge, but people nowawadays have very short memories, so will probably forget in a decade
I don't want to hear it. Fuck you, America. The GOP has united the entire world around hating you and it's gonna burn for a generation.
Yes, it's going to take a generation to undo all the harm this administration has caused.
The President, the Senate, the Supreme "Court" and a large contingent of their wealthy and elite went apeshit.
No one will trust the US for at least a lifetime, if they can get their act together before completely self immolating.
The damage this administration caused may never truly be undone, as the issues that led to all of this stem from the country's very core.
Other countries aren't going to want to make long term deals with a country who may immediately go against said deal because they elected a nutjob. Allies are now seeing that America can and will turn on them despite decades of positive relations purely because of the president's whims, even threatening invasion over imaginary threats. It's been shown that America's political system is so utterly broken and rotten that somebody as unqualified and psychotic as Trump can win an election not only once, but twice, and that it can't be relied upon for anything long term since it's always one bad election from unravelling.
America has lost its soft power, its respect on the world stage, and as the Iran war has proven thus far, its ability to project its power outside of its borders effectively. Its government has been gutted and replaced with sycophants devoted to one man, and I'm sure they'll sabotage things if they're forced out. America is toast.
I think they should start killing the more serious offenders in the party.
Round them up convict them and shoot them in the face and broadcast it.
Make MAGA Afraid. Very, very afraid.
Also, when did we stop; "see a nazi, punch a nazi"?
As a Canadian, an "apology tour" would feel like this to me.
If the next administration wants forgiveness it'll have to show real progress on fixing America's broken system of government and its broken culture. That'll take longer than four years so the next administration should not expect forgiveness. The best it can hope for is to get started on eventual forgiveness.
In the meantime we need to keep diversifying away from America and building defenses against them because there's no reason to extend the benefit of the doubt. They elected not-Trump after the previous time Trump was elected and where did that lead them? Back to Trump.
Exactly this. The whole "RAH RAH MURICA IS THE BEST" overly nationalistic mentality America has is killing it. When they refuse to recognize their country's problems and deflect and attack when faced with criticism, it prevents them from addressing those problems until they're too big to ignore. It's nuts how many people in America are living in trailers at astounding levels of poverty, yet they are ferociously loyal to a country and party that doesn't give a single flying fuck about them or the 12 American flags flying amongst all the junk and garbage strewn about the lawn.
If we elect a non-Trump-aligned president, there really is no point to do an apology tour. Obama did it because we could pass the Bush, fils presidency, as a one-off. But after electing Bush twice and Trump twice the world knows the United States can never be trusted again.
Lip service is pointless. America is so utterly broken as a country that it's going to take more than words for other countries to take it seriously again. America is only one more election away from just unraveling again, and its system is (by design) rotten and dysfunctional and won't stop being so without major reform. I don't see that happening under the two party system.
It’s not a thing we’re going to recover from quickly. It’ll probably take a generation - if not several. We are continuing to squander reputation and trust that has been built over the course of more than a century. The damage being done here cannot be overstated. It’s geopolitically catastrophic. We are creating a power vacuum, and Europe isn’t stepping up nearly aggressively enough.
That won't happen? Why would King Trump apologize?
It’ll take a century to repair the damage that has been done. So begins the American century of shame
An apology tour would be nice, but probably not terribly effective. Realistically, it will take at least a decade before the rest of the world will be able to start trusting the US again. We’ll need to see that they’ve learned their lesson and made the necessary changes such that the next few elections result in administrations that are trustworthy, and that they don’t just flip-flop back again after a president or two.
A decade? How about a generation? Or several?
I’m guessing you mean president of USA? Nah we don’t care about USA anymore.
Yeah in English we call it America. Hope this helps.
I don’t think so. As a gringo, you may call it America, but for instance your northern neighbors probably have a different opinion…?
Canadians? Lol, call one American and see how they take it.
Side discussion. We still don’t care about USA anymore, there was eg an article about in the WSJ.
I think he will be preoccupied with the downfall.
Let's see.
- Economic and strategic oil reserves are declining fast, with seemingly no effort to conserve oil. Thanks to the war with Iran.
- The only reason the US is not in a recession yet is because of AI, which is not profitable, and destined to crash.
- Other nations are slowly divesting from US treasuries, limiting the financial options.
- Infrastructure has been rotting for decades, and it's starting to break down.
- Climate change has started to produce dangerous heat waves and other extreme weather, further straining infrastructure.
Anyway, that's what I can think of from the top of my head.
i can attest to the rotting infrastructure.
I'm a Canadian contractor that works on post-storm restoration all over North America. America does not maintain or do anything proactive with it's utility infrastructure, it just fixes it when it breaks.
everything is old and ready to give out
Sunny outlook
and blamed when everything isn't magically fixed before the next mid-terms.
They may talk one thing about unity and fixing stuff, but at their core they condone everything that's happened
Why would they do that? That would be like taking responsibility for a previous administration's fuckery. The best thing the next president could do would be to do everything they can force Red States to improve their education systems so that the next generation grows up able to think critically and have things like good judgment of character.
No, he'll receive a Nobel Peace Prize for the achievement of being US president while not being Donald Trump.
Tell me you don't remember 2009 without telling me you don't remember 2009.