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zelensky-pain in a predictable turn of events it looks like the fascists in Ukraine will probably not get more money because the fascists in the USA are too racist and want more border restrictions and war with China.

link to the funny WaPo article here.

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[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 79 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Begin the countdown to azov 9/11

Season 12 of Blowback is gonna be wild

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I wonder which Euroid landmark they'll bomb first? I expect to see even more Ukrainian fascist collaboration with the other fascist movements currently all over Europe sadness-abysmal

[–] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Poland. They're already mad as fuck about Poland trying to close off the border to Ukranian goods.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Slovakia and Hungary also joined the blockade. And it's not only about Ukrainian goods (grain mainly) but also about Ukrainian transport. EU allowed them to operate without permits (even those that EU transport companies must have) so Ukrainian haulers were able to drastically push others from local transport in this year (mainly Polish ones, % decreased from 38% to 9% according to Polish data).

And the transport is constant axis of economic-administrative conflict there, shortly before the war even China got involved when UA tried to blackmail Poland into getting them more transport permits by blocking the Chinese imports to Poland which were going through UA by trains.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

shortly before the war even China got involved when UA tried to blackmail Poland into getting them more transport permits by blocking the Chinese imports to Poland which were going through UA by trains.

I didn't know about this one. UKKKraine doesn't fail to disappoint in how despotic it is.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

hungary could be a target, because 1) nobody cares what happens to it 2) it's an entirely pointless country that should've been annexed by slovakia a long time ago and 3) orban was super against ukraine and for putin during all this

so, interesting times. last time we had bombing and shit was during some kind of mafia reorganization/turf war in the 90s

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

they already did nordstream, according to the amerikkka

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm betting on an airliner being downed over a major metropolitan area

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hundreds of leftover stinger missiles go brrrr

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

They're gonna weld them all together into a Stongerscared

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Damn that’s definitely getting lathed into existence.

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 77 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Bernie Sanders voted "no"

The Soc Dems can have little a good foreign policy voting, as a treat.

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

Yeah, for now. Wait for Bernie to hold out then trade his vote for a proverbial handful of beans.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Twist: Bernie voted no because there wasn't enough money for Taiwan.

[–] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It was because of Israel actually.

I voted NO on the foreign aid supplemental bill today for one reason. I do not believe that we should give the right-wing extremist Netanyahu government an additional $10.1 billion dollars with no strings attached to continue their inhumane war against the Palestinian people. Israel has the absolute right to defend itself against the Hamas terrorists who attacked them on October 7. They do not have the legal or moral right to kill thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women, and children.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

now he's trying to save a little face it seems

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Too little too late for me but if it saves some lives I'm all for it

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Alright Bernie, you did good this time

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 63 points 2 years ago (2 children)

lmfao republicans voting against border fascism because it wasn't fascist enough for them

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

listen, it's either going to be fully upgraded team fortress 2 engineer sentry turrets every ten meters along the Mexico border or nothing, you commie

[–] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

I just imagined the engie saying "[slur] enterin' mah country" and kinda hate my brain for it

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Chiang-Kai-Shek should be up there for being the original Zelensky that the US poured billions into just to lose and whine every other year.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Truman called him "Cash My Check"

[–] LeninsWorldTour@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Soviet Order of Victory was to be given to both the actual commanders and the commander-in-chief (that is, the head of states) of the victorious coalition, so one of the reciepients was even the very late turncoat king of Romania, but neither Truman nor Churchill recieved it, instead those went to Montgomery and Eisenhower (other non-Soviet recipients were Tito and Polish C-I-C of the eastern army marshal Rola-Żymierski)

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry they hate brown people more than they hate Russians.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Double edged sword, it's the only reason ukraine had any support in the first place but also Americans hate brown people way more than they feel empathy for white people.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

Ukrainians' white pass might be expiring at some point too.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

who put funding for israel and humanitarian aid for gaza in the same bill

[–] GrumpigPoopBalls@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

the money is for hundreds of cardboard boxes with "humanitarian aid" written on the side that will be delivered to the IDF so they can unload it from trucks in front of media cameras

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago
[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

Just vote , trust me this time! Things definitely will change! so-true

[–] Snackuleata@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Thank you socialist grandpa. bernie

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Keep protesting!

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Good let’s stop throwing good money after bad

75 billion dollars. Sickening to think of how much housing that could have built.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

America doesn't need to build housing. There's enough housing for everyone already. It's just that they're being rented held onto as speculative financial assets by parasites instead of being lived in. Most cities have more empty homes than homeless people.

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More housing would lower housing prices so they won't be as attractive for speculators. The artificial scarcity is what helps them jack up rents.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t think that’s a good reason to just build more houses though. I get what you’re saying, but it sounds kinda wasteful.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're correct in a rhetorical way but the current political reality in the US is those houses owned by all the millionaires and billionaires and corporations will remain private property for the foreseeable future.

The choice is demand ideological purity and demand those homes be seized and distributed to those in need.

Or

Postpone the ideal outcome and build homes for those in need right now.

I hate half measures as much, perhaps more, than the next person, but if the choice is do nothing until the perfect outcome is available or implement half-ass improvements right now I'm going to opt for the improvements... as long that's a true statement.

That means I'm not going to blindly defend anything some dingus lib labels as "well it's better!" but if we could divert $75B to just straight building homes and giving them to currently unhoused people, that's objectively good.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It doesn’t really matter that wasn’t my point. Housing, public transportation, rural hospitals, schools, it doesn’t matter. We could have used that money to help people and spent it on bombs instead.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was agreeing with you. The money should go to housing or, yes, anything else on that list. Or even to rebuilding Palestine. Anything other than bombs.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thanks I wasn’t really replying to you but to the thread overall, just sort of bad hexbear etiquette bleeding through lol. Because we are all terminally online it’s a good assumption that all posts will be read, not uncommon to reply 3 or 4 layers down. Sorry about that. I think you get what I’m saying though that the convo above misses the forest for the trees