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Yes, Canada has a legal path to E.U. membership – but would it want this?

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The EU requires unanimity among its existing members in order to add a new member. It's not impossible, but getting Orban to agree to it is, I think, a much bigger stumbling block than the article implies. Any "concessions" Orban demands to accept Canada would themselves have to be unanimously agreed to by existing members.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

The EU requires unanimity among its existing members

Wow, that's a rule that doesn't scale well. Especially since apparently expelling a country requires unanimity too.

[–] NewDay@feddit.org 4 points 19 hours ago

Orban has to vote for Canada. Why? His regime will be over in 14 days if he does not get the EU money. Orban's biggest rival is in first place according to the latest polls. If he wants to be re-elected, he cannot sabotage EU policy.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We should just create EU 2.0 without them, with proper rules to handle that bullshit in the future, and... I don't know, Blackjack maybe.

[–] CanadaPlus 4 points 1 day ago

I mean, we're already talking about a NATO 2.0, aren't we?

Of course, that's their decision to ultimately make.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not an expert on this, but if Orban is really stubborn about it - and flaunts EU rules generally - couldn't the suspension clause be used on Hungary? If I'm understanding it right, once voting rights are suspended, they'd no longer have a say in objecting to Canada's accession during the duration of the suspension.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/suspension-clause-article-7-of-the-treaty-on-european-union.html

[–] CanadaPlus 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It already probably would have been for all the other nefarious shit they do, except they've had a sympathetic fashy government somewhere else in the EU to block it. It was Poland, now it's IIRC Slovakia.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago

I have no clue, but I hope they figure it out soon. This is extremely annoying.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With blackjack and Canadian hookers

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They are all bearded lumberjacks.

Forgot to add this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfRdur8GLBM

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can the EU expel member states?

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My understanding is no - but a long term suspension might be better anyways, since the effect seems to be that the member state is still forced to comply with EU rules without getting any of the benefits like voting.

That being said, I wonder if they could suspend Hungary, then have the rest vote and approve an amendment to allow expulsion - which would pass unamiously since Hungary can't vote against it as it's suspended, and then they expel Hungary under the new amendment...?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

It may not be an issue anymore (I don't recall hearing about it in a while, but I'm not sure how long), but it used to be the case that there were two countries that were often regarded as EU troublemakers, and by working together, even though they didn't agree much of the time, they could veto any attempts to undermine each other. I think the other troublemaker was Poland, and I think it may have been before their last election, but that's a lot of unsurity.

Suspension, fwiw, requires unanimity apart from the country in question, so one single dissenter can prevent it.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks so much. Food for thought. Latent consequences to be searched out and explored.