That's exactly who Canadians elected. The ship isn't sinking any faster and his government is relatively competent. He brings stability and maybe, if Canada is lucky, marginal improvements. No one thought Carney was a leftist or represented meaningful change...

[–] yannic@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

* who liberal party members elected

I would argue Justin Trudeau's leadership had a left-leaning slant, and influenced by the (sorry, don't know the word) American "vote for your leader separately from voting for your representative" system of governance, you could argue Canadians chose a left-leaning government, meanwhile liberal party members chose a right-leaning government.

It's a cunning strategy for a centrist party in power; swapping out a leader who leans one way with another who leans the other in-between general elections, just when the usual dissolution starts materializing.

Edit: Oh, shoot, I forgot about the 2025 federal election. Yes, Carney was the leader back then.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Trudeau wasn't left, he was just left of the Carney we got and too pro-US to be leader.

(Carney is also too pro-US to be leader)

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So he wasn't left?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

Trudeau didn't have a left-leaning slant, he had left-leaning face paint on. Left-face if you will. Everything he messed up, he messed up trying to leverage Harper era conservative policy, poorly and without really understanding what he was doing.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think it's who they voted for, but rather a result of who they voted against.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not Canadian but since this whole thing is brutally relatable, aren't we as citizens responsible for the poor choice? I know capable people that decided to work for private companies instead of public service, for example. (apologies if this is too tangental, but it's been on my mind).

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No friend. There is no ethical move on the board. In Canada at least, if we had anticipated the problems our electoral system would cause and corrected it 50 years ago when we had the chance, we could blame the voter, but because of the flaws in our democratic system, we're caught in a spiral where the governing system is not designed to actually reflect the values of our citizens. It's nice when they do align, but that doesn't happen often.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Upvoted because I agree in part, but if there is no ethical move left on the board we are doomed, and I don't believe that. I believe that we can radically transform our nations for the better. Look at Mamdani in NY and Zack Polanski and Fiona Lally in England - or more importantly, the movement growing around them. The problem as I see it is that we are distracted (entertained, busy) and divided (ideology / misinformation). We do need a revolution, though. And by-the-numbers "leadership" isn't doing it.