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submitted 9 months ago by LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net

I’m not kidding. This will make Gen-Zers vote for Trump. All he has to say is he’ll reverse the ban. He’s already announced that he opposes this bill and that this only supports Facebook.

Biden and the Democrats are so fucking insane. I do not understand it. They want to lose all support with every fucking base they have.

I’ll never stop being on TikTok.

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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 112 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's very very telling that the bill doesn't force tik tok to change any of its supposedly unacceptable data harvesting capabilites, it just forces them to sell it to an American owned company so we can reap the benefits instead of them.

Unfortunately, as I've literally seen stated verbatim multiple times on reddit, people don't care if governments are controlling social media apps to scrape data for profit and control and moderate content as long as its the US government doing the scraping and controlling.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

reddit-logo "I need the people harvesting my data to be white or I am uncomfortable"

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[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 95 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's clear the objectives here are to force a purchase of TikTok so that the state can:

  • (A) reap the private profits
  • (B) install a more cooperative administration so they can:
    • (1) gain backdoor access to its data and get easy warrantless searches of American's online activity
    • (2) install a moderation / community safety lead who aligns with state interests (similar to ex-cia agents being employed at Facebook, Google, and Reddit) to try and shape the content on the platform, likely to be more bourgeois in character.

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These are definitely bipartisan goals. TikTok has proven itself over the past few years as a kind of gorilla journalism vehicle, by intention or not. Some of the people posting on TikTok likely wouldn't even consider themselves "journalists" by any standard; however, the reality is they are. If someone is posting video of an unfolding event live, from a boots-on-the-ground perspective, they are performing a kind of journalism.

The TikTok algorithm has this uncanny ability (and at times manual ability) to catapult a video in front of nearly everyone on the platform. That kind of exposure to these unfolding events has steadily eroded the base that the mass market media has been sitting on for decades, in a way that no other platform has done before.

I have no doubt that this will pass. Their gross attempts at trying to spin this as some kind of security threat or as the ghoul good-morning has put it "not an attempt to ban TikTok. It's an attempt to make TikTok better. Tic-Tac-Toe. A winner. A winner" will slide off the younger generations. To most in that demographic it will appear for what it is, a transparent and patronizing attempt to maintain American hegemony, and nothing more.

Make no mistake, when this is passed, you will have your speech on that platform curtailed. You will see the algorithm change to support a more western, bourgeois narrative. American capital will walk away with the reward. You will be left holding the bag. You will see the state execution of TikTok in the town square.

Every accusation is projection, this is no different.

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 67 points 9 months ago

I'm like 99% certain that this is being pushed strongly by Israel behind-the-scenes. They're seeing that young people fucking despise them and they're freaking out about it.

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[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

not an attempt to ban TikTok. It's an attempt to make TikTok better. Tic-Tac-Toe. A winner. A winner

She actually said that what the fuck. Why do all of our leaders have melted brains?

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[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 93 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A lot of people think this is a media control thing, but as far as I can tell the US has already forced TikTok to acquiesce to placing US national security apparachiks in positions of power. As a result, I think this motion is simply a favor to Congress's deep-pocketed patrons in Silicon Valley, using "national security" as a pretext.

Of course, it will still lead to censorship.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 64 points 9 months ago

Yes most Americans think China controls TikTok when for all intents and and purposes, it’s an American company. China just profits from the shit privacy laws. In addition to the soul crushing content, I imagine the other reason they don’t want the app in China is exactly because of this - it’s a shared intelligence tool between the two countries, and the US has the desire to destroy China completely

[-] davel@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

With a side helping of more cold war propaganda news cycles.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 70 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

usa nationalizing industries and lefties being mad smh

vpn is not only for piracy theory-gary

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 60 points 9 months ago

The 'free market' everyone. If anarcho-capitalists ever abolished the government, they'd have to invent one.

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What a pathetic country along with its tech oligarchs who are seething that they can't compete.

[-] Ideology@hexbear.net 56 points 9 months ago

Mom: We have cyberpunk at home.

The cyberpunk at home:

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 53 points 9 months ago

It’s like 2000 all over again, with the libs not understanding why Gore and his PMRC wife didn’t animate Gen X and early millennial voters.

[-] Harajukum@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago

we WILL repeat the clintion-bush-obama-trump era cycle until you LIKE it

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 9 months ago

That really does seem to be the cycle. Clinton normalized Reagan's policies as the default Dem platform, and that's what Biden did with Trump. If the cycle holds, we're on schedule for the next Bush to impose another series of multigenerational wars and dramatic expansion of secret domestic surveillance and policing.

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[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

after she did all that work putting Tipper stickers on some of the best music so people knew what to buy smdh

the least they could have done in return was :vote: for her husband

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[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 53 points 9 months ago

This shit is embarrassing. The dem leadership adults in the room don't have the courage, maturity, or intellectual honesty to tell the public that the cold war hysteria justifying the last century of American politics is entirely based on bullshit.

If they're willing to go along with something this stupid because they're afraid to lead, then it's not surprising at all that they're afraid to challenge the narrative around the migrant worker menace.

It goes without saying, they're never going to challenge capital, and if capital begins propagating a judeo bolshevik narrative, don't look to the dems for help.

I don't give a shit about tiktok, but these people are fucking children.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 52 points 9 months ago

One nation controlled by the media
Information age of hysteria
It's calling out to idiot America

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[-] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 51 points 9 months ago

flattened-bernie healthcare plz

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 50 points 9 months ago

If there's anything that would mobilize Burgerlanders, it's if their treats get taken away.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

These are treats for the stupid disrespectful youth, not the hard working patriotic olds.

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[-] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

Are they insane or is the whole two-party thing a big theater play and they're taking on the "bad cop" role? Or the stick, as in carrot and stick. Or the "heel" and the "face" of kayfabe. I just feel like they have to know what they're doing. All those teams of people working on campaigns and policies and stuff. Right?

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 62 points 9 months ago

The US is just a nation of “good cops” and “bad cops.” The good cops will politely ask you to vote for them, support their policies. When you refuse or ask why or ask if they could do a better job, they’ll just shake their heads and say “I tried to help. But it looks like we’re doing it the hard way” and walk away for the bad cop to come in and beat you half to death.

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

i think they haven't had a serious conversation with a tech user in the 21st century that wasn't libbed out the asshole and filtered through bad metaphor.

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[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago

The House vote was 352 to 65, with 50 Democrats and 15 Republicans voting in opposition.

quote from CNN with the actual vote numbers for anyone playing along at home.

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[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago

Literally a Bill of Attainder.

Love to live in a Constitutional Republic government by a laissez-faire free market Congress.

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago

The bill, dubbed the “Protecting Americans From Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act,”

smh, so close to PAFFACACA, which is non-sense, but sounds like a good onomatopoeia for this type of bill

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[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago

I hope one day hexbear gets banned, I’ll finally be able to log off

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

Why don’t they just accidentally deactivate all TikTok accounts upon selling it, revive musica.ly, and then let people login with their previous TikTok accounts on there

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago

The legislation is written to encompass this possibility and shut down the company regardless.

Maybe they can stream exclusively to Indian Reservations, though.

[-] charly4994@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

Everyone talks about how it's going to piss off gen-Z but I swear all the gen X and older millennials I work with use it more than any of the gen Z I work with.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

Probably because they have senior positions and have more free time to fuck around at work.

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[-] roux@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

Next we should ban the rest of the apps that harvest our data and make money from it.

[-] dRLY@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

One of the bills (the Restrict Act) seems like it is just remaking the Patriot Act but with more spying. So I doubt that this shit will be just allowed to not go into affect even if Tiktok is sold off.

Vid talking about it: https://www.tiktok.com/@sayheyjames/video/7216023076595813678

The bill itself: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/686/text?s=1&r=15

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[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago
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[-] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Crackers trying to colonize social media now.

[-] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

Stupid country.

[-] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

I'm an old Millennial and I don't even understand tick tock. This is an absolutely dumbass move and I don't understand it either

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

I'm X-ennial. Tiktok is just a good algo and a snappy interface. Its the closest anything has gotten to channel-flipping since before cable went digital. Just flip until something cool is on, and flip away if it gets boring

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[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s joever

obama-sad

I’m upset because I’m going to lose the only contact I have with a failed date (who I am not over) and she sometimes likes my reposts and posts of my cat. And the precedent this will set isn’t great either I guess

Damn I’ll have to mourn again

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