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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/anime@hexbear.net

I went off anime when the isekai and moe craze took off about 10 years ago.

I tried to get into modern anime, but couldn't (JoJo is based off an 80s manga, that doesn't count as modern to me).

But I'm on episode 3 and I'm really digging Dungeon Meishi/ Delicious in Dungeon. I'm watching the English dub and It's like if Monster Hunter and Dimension 20 had a baby. The humour is great, I actually laughed out loud a couple of times. The world is cool too.

I like how it isn't following the anime tropes. The characters aren't high schoolers, the women act like real human beings, there's no Shonen toy commercial BS. It's just a good fun adventure.

My only criticisms are that it's a little videogamey, it makes me hungry and that the title Delicious in Dungeon makes no sense, it should be Delicious in THE Dungeon.

Senshi is my favourite.

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[-] Southloop@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Pst! The title is goofy in English because a creative decision was made to make it sound like both a play on D’n’D and a cooking show on public television, for example “Barefoot Contessa” or “Welcome to Homegrown!” instead of doing a direct calque of its Japanese name and calling it “Dungeon Meal.” Real clunker, huh?

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

shoulda been Dungeon and Dining

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

I once saw someone suggest "Dungeon Delicious" and even that sounds better

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[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

You come to this level often?

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It is an honest to god dungeon crawl in the old tabletop sense, where the characters triumph due to their knowledge and cunning rather than raw power. Everyone's personality is believable, and each member of the party has complimentary strengths and weaknesses.

Ryoko Kui plays CRPGs and it shows, but she also transcends the videogame logic by centering the narrative on the party's mastery of the environment (the dungeon, the monsters, the nature of magic and so on) rather than a series of pitched battles. I recommend it to pretty much everyone who has an interest on anime or computer RPGs.

But more importantly, I want to eat the ice cream.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

You will live in the dungeon. You will eat the mimics.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

But more importantly, I want to eat the ice cream.

I wish my house was haunted so I could use holy water bludgeons to make exorcism sorbet. sicko-wistful

[-] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

Everything dungeon meshi related should come with a big certification sticker that says "Contains no isekai content!"

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

I'd have checked it out even sooner if I saw that sticker. kbity

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

the title Delicious in Dungeon makes no sense, it should be Delicious in THE Dungeon.

It's trying to be a pun on DnD but the english title doesn't translate well.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

WHY DIDN'T THEY CALL IT DISHES & DRAGONS

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

marcille-stare

Damn that is a better name... or maybe Dungeons and Dishes

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

That is also an excellent name. sicko-wistful

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

FUCK! That IS a missed opportunity. marcille-stare

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

I like the Spanish version mazmorras y tragones which is kind of a blend of dnds names in both English and Spanish and also the play on words between tragones and dragones

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

There are so many reasons to recommend this manga / anime. Like that Laios is undeniably autistic—that man loves monster meals the way I love dinosaurs.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

(I write this as my daughter and I are arguing about whether or not Butterfree's wings are intrinsically toxic or not. The Pokédex says that it can flap its wings to release toxic scales / powder, but that doesn't necessarily imply that the wings themselves are comprised of toxic scales! These are important questions to ask when assessing a Pokémon's snuggleability.)

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

He also has a lot of affinity with dogs. He'd go to furcons for sure if his world had them.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ok my friend recc'd this one to me just the other day and i had been blowing it off as "one day". But you reiterate some good things she said said and some magic words she didn't and now I have to check it out. Here goes

Edit yup this is funny. When she fed that adventurer the antidote i lost my shit

[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 20 points 3 weeks ago

This show was so good! It starts with a gimmick but quickly grows into a full D&D-based world (unlike many others which start and end with just their gimmick). I like Chilchuck the best myself, the idea that he's a professional working on a contract with a family back home speaks to me I guess.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

I like Chilchuck the best myself, the idea that he's a professional working on a contract with a family back home speaks to me I guess.

He's a fun subversion of "this childlike anime waifu is actually 1000 years old even though she talks acts and looks like a child" creep pandering; he acts and even talks like a grumpy middle-aged man because he is.

[-] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

The videogamey goes right out the window very soon. One of my favorite manga.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

It somehow dodges that "what if bibeo bame" isekai exploitation shit entirely and gives decent lore explanations for what's left. Excellent. chefs-kiss

[-] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'd even argue that the video game vibes are more down to our conditioning as viewers and consumers of media in general. Also any fantasy anime that isn't an isekai will have a decent chance of being a good show. We even had frieren recently. Unless it's trash like goblin slayer. And the only fantasy type anime that's worse than goblin slayer is surprise, an isekai. The dogshit trash that is Gate. It's wild how people forget Imperial Japanese were basically the Asian Nazis and this let's nationalist garbage like Gate be produced. Then there's mushoku tensei... holy shit isekai sucks ass.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Then there's mushoku tensei... holy shit isekai sucks ass.

I never heard of that one, but you seemed to imply it's worse than Goblin Slayer, Surprise, and Gate. I don't dare look it up even for curiosity. dead-dove-1

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

My only criticisms are that it's a little videogamey

I had to dig up and old post @Cromalin@hexbear.net made where the author was talking about games she liked and games she played with her dad on twitter, plus some of her CRPG fanart

[-] Gorb@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Now watch dragon pilot

I will convince you with this ed https://youtu.be/hG-ahxkDPCA

Honestly a lot of anime coming out these days are so much better than the isekai dark ages. Dead dead demons destruction is absolutely goated and probably the best thing I've seen in a while.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Dead dead demons destruction is absolutely goated and probably the best thing I've seen in a while.

Agreed, it's been killing it.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

The premise is cute but i bounced off the animation. Not DiD-specific, i had the same issue with the new batman. The current generation of cg cartoon animation looks so flat and, idk... austere? I'm not sure what the call it. But it doesn't speak to me or generate visual interest.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

The manga is gorgeous, and has a lot of cool establishing shots of the dungeon that the anime just skips over.

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

There's no CG in dungeon meishi from what I can remember. The animation quality is worse in the first few episodes than the rest of the show, I remember watching an action sequence in episode six and thinking "oh hey, the animatioj budget turned up"

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[-] micnd90@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's going to get better further as the world and lore opens itself. The world has a surprisingly well-established tabletop DnD rule, with each race given fairly sufficient lore just like the edible monster that you have seen so far. I also highly recommend going to the manga after you complete the anime, as the manga has concluded (it is only 90 or so chapter) and the art is gorgeous. Unlike many other manga that drags on, the author wraps it up where it makes sense with very satisfying book-end (although some people suspect that she did wrap up the series just in time for BG3 release last year, the author is a massive western CRPG fan, she's too much of an anti-social to actually play DnD with other people).

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

although some people suspect that she did wrap up the series just in time for BG3 release last year

This is confirmed. The final chapters were delayed slightly because BG3 came out in August.

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

Has the best character been introduced yet? kbity kbity-how I think she shows up in episode 17 or something. She's amazing every time she's doing anything I go hoohoohehehehe

I wanted to like Isekai. I mean who doesn't want to get teleported to another dimension and make new friends and have an adventure or whatever, but they always make the protagonist so impossible to identify with. Yeah there's also the "Guess slavery is okay here. When in Rome!" Shit. I liked Dr. Stone up until they awoke Mr good guy capitalism. You literally had communism in your hands and you threw it away!

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

One of the oldest isekai anime, Aura Battler Dunbine, is pretty cool. It's also based off of a Tomino-written novel, so it has that going for it.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I at least like that the good guy capitalism womanizer man appreciates all women, no matter shape or size they're all beautiful, which is like one micron better than Sanji

Still hated that part of Dr stone though, like fuck off with the strongest primate highschooler baki Jojo shit, I wanna watch these prehistoric communists recreate all tech pls

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

The problem with isekai is not that its isekai. I mean its just this all encompassing premise for fantasy it must be responsible for half of all stories in the genre. The problem is that its a fad. And with all anime fads its self referential to the point of absurdity.

The only isekai I liked was Log Horizon and Grimgar. The former because it actually takes the premise of being trapped in an MMO and does things with it. It's more about the player politics than anything else. Grimgar otoh for all its faults made it so that being conscripted to the fantasy militia monster killer corps sucks ass.

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

The Neverending Story was technically an isekai, but it lacked the "what if capitalism ruining the place that's supposed to be the escape from capitalism" part of typical isekai.

[-] micnd90@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The problem is not isekai itself, some of the most beloved animes like Fushigi Yuugi, Inuyasha, Spirited Away are isekai (specifically, girl-isekai) and even Digimon, all of them are fantastic. It is a great way to introduce a protagonist with background you can relate into fantastical world (Spirited Away is the best example for this).

What poisoned the chalice is the mid 2010s onwards Japanese light novel - anime adaptation - merchandise meta. This is why modern isekai has a long, clickbaity title such as "I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level" or "I Got a Cheat Skill in Another World and Became Unrivaled in the Real World, Too". The meta is so that the people pick up the light novel just because of clickbait title, and based on 1st volume sales alone one can get an anime adaptation, then make money off selling waifu merchs. So what happened is that the initial transport is not well-thought of (hence, truck-kun joke for the mechanic of transporting the protag), video game rules (in a sterile, bright colored, generic medieval fantasy world) and waifu-harem cast (to sell merchs).

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The meta is so that the people pick up the light novel just because of clickbait title, and based on 1st volume sales alone one can get an anime adaptation, then make money off selling waifu merchs.

To add on a bit, the clickbaity titles are literal clickbait because what happens is that a lot of these stories start out by being published online for free on what are essentially fan-fiction boards in the hopes that publishers will pick up the most popular ones and they get book deals. That's the reason for the overly long titles summarizing the plot, also why most of these aren't well written (usually the first time an editor sees the script, it'll be when the story is picked up for publishing and usually there are very few rewrites etc).

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

IT'S READY! feast-1 feast-2

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

My only criticisms are that it's a little videogamey,

It's an adaptation of the classic video game Wizardry: Proving Ground of the Mad Overlord =)

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