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[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 39 points 3 months ago

DO NOT BRING OMEGAVERSE TO LEMMY PLEASE THIS IS MY SAFE SPACE ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 28 points 3 months ago
[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

STOOOOOPP THIS IS CURSED KNOWLEDGE ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 17 points 3 months ago

DO BRING OMEGAVERSE TO LEMMY PLEASE THIS IS MY SAFE SPACE ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[-] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 months ago

I am lost. Can someone spoonfeed me the meme?

[-] Damage@feddit.it 60 points 3 months ago

Not sure, but I think the bad wolf study is the one that established the "alpha" bullshit. I have no idea about the erotica but the thing about bioessentialism is mocking the belief that humans and animals have fixed unchangeable characteristics... Such that a "weak" male will always be so, or some such crap.

Idk really

[-] CluckN@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

The bad wolf study was the Alpha/Beta relationship of wolf packs that is wildly regarded as untrue.

The deranged erotica is people applying Alpha/Beta dynamics to random characters for the sake of creating fanfiction. Iโ€™m talking Mpreg and other deranged ramblings of sleep deprived tumblr fans.

Source: Stuck my dick in crazy back in 2010

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 21 points 3 months ago

mpreg was a term I did not want to remember.

[-] match@pawb.social 19 points 3 months ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Unwanted mpregnancy/vore and Ridley Scott directing

[-] RarePossum@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

There's an emoji for it ๐Ÿซƒ

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 3 months ago

Source checks out.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Actual wolf packs are a family. One pair of adults plus their children. Until those are old enough, then they leave and search for a partner and own territory.

All the stuff you read about pack alphas, all the sociological pseudo-science about alpha behavior derived from it... that's all based on a one bullshit study about a large group of wolves artificially intoduced to a new area, that in no way behaved like wolves naturally do.

Basically the equivalent of putting a few dozen teen-age boys on an isolated island then studying their behavior to understand human society.

[-] Rudee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Are you implying that humans aren't prone to worshipping idols, tribalism, and interpersonal violence?

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 10 points 3 months ago

Funny enough, not in the cynical, depressing way William Goulding postulated and many of us were forced to read in English class. :D

https://www.newsweek.com/real-lord-flies-true-story-boys-island-william-golding-humankind-human-nature-rutger-bregman-1503204

It's nice when humanity isn't the tragically disgusting thing we're often forcefully told it is. (Usually as some way to justify State-enforced law and order via violence.)

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

seriously, the more you actually read up about human history and biology the more you see that we're just.. kinda fucking great, when we're not constantly torturing ourselves and trying to justify it like stockholm syndrome'd abuse victims.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I was gonna say wasn't Lord of the Flies literally a critique of society?

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah, but a satirical one, not one to be taken literally.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago
[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I suppose it's also worth mentioning that time some kids actually got stranded on an island and ended up developing a functional community.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

yeah, as it turns out humans are actually inherently mutualistic and when faced with adversity will reliably organize quite well.

because, like, that's a pretty handy feature to evolve as a social species.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Structure/meme format: like with the "dominoes", one seemingly small thing can lead to much bigger things happening

Context: the 1970 book "The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species" popularized the hypothesis of the alpha, beta, and omega wolf, which has birthed all sorts of toxic and stupid bullshit that has harmed many humans, pets (especially dogs), and other animals.

The author, David Mech, has since tried to get the publisher to stop selling his erroneous book and basically dedicated most of his career to educating people on how wrong his most influential work was.

[-] Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think it's about the alpha male (guessing from the post title and nothing else)

edit: I think it has nothing to do with it actually

edit 2: was actually correct

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It's everything to do with it. Read some of the other replies.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

alpha wolf and momma bear

leaders of the drive-thru tribe

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 months ago
[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

You've got cause and effect in the wrong order.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

In what way?

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

It's a switch.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

something tells me the deranged erotica would exist anyways, iirc it's something marx predicted as a consequence of capitalism, seriously.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

The alpha/beta wolf notion doesn't even make much of a sense, considering wolves tend to be loners but only make packs when they need to hunt.

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