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[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 94 points 1 month ago

I used to be like these types, and then I realized a lot of leftists, or more specifically Marxists base their entire political ideology off of theory that’s like 200 years old. Marx was writing at the peak of the Industrial Revolution probably when capitalism was in its most grotesque form (child labour, no regulations etc.) there’s no way in hell Marx could have ever imagined the complex world we live in today.

And also evolution is false because On the Origin of Species was written 200 years ago and there's no way Darwin could've accounted for all the complexities the molecular biology revolution revealed in trait heritability.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 80 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also why do liberals like to pretend their own theory doesn't predate Marx by decades or centuries. Marx was literally building on top of existing liberal theory

They have guys like Hobbes, who died in 1679. They'll regularly quote Plato or Aristotle too. Ask them what western society is based on and they'll start saying nerd shit about the Manga Carta or ancient Rome. Liberals are so unserious

[-] The_Filthy_Commie@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 1 month ago

the Manga Carta

New weeb theory just dropped.

[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Manga adaptation of magna carta when?

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[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Using Salic Law to own the Marxists on the battlefield of ideas

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

God can you imagine if we lived in a hellishly cruel and exploitative world of industrial genocides, child labor and deregulation, like in the dirty stinky past? Then those communists might have a point, haha

[-] axont@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago

Once I had someone try to refuse communism with something like "Marx was writing at a time where everything was made in factories. Times have changed."

ok which star trek replicator did your clothes come from mr liberal

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

You mean to tell me that the people making all commodities aren't making $300k/yr and working from home with their output coordinated through a series of gig economy apps? I don't know about that, sounds pretty old fashioned.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

Nonono neoliberalism fixed all that, look at the global extreme poverty graph, the line is going down! (Please don't look at what happens when you take China out).

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[-] axont@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

the Pythagorean theorum is outdated because the ancient Greeks would have fainted in terror at the sight of a protractor

[-] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

It's wild how the people who approach capitalism like it's a religion are able to sort of just state between the lines that there isn't child labor or how there supposedly are functioning regulations in global capitalism today. Completely ignoring the exploitation their neoliberal world order requires to maintain itself.

It's not that complex, they are calling it complex the same way they call the Middle East complex. Understanding it would require engaging with something that takes some work. And if we ask a lib if a lib will "lib or not to lib", the lib will always lib. Because it takes zero effort to keep on libbing.

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Damn thats crazy how i don't buy stuff produced under the command of capitalists anymore, its a very different system cause they got flatscreens. Interestingly they only produce stuff that brings them profit, another mystery why they do that curious-marx just different i guess.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If someone were to say this about their beloved constitution.... And why are they acting like we aren't facing climate crisis and potential overshoot?

[-] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago

Abruptly stand up and challenge the speaker to a debate. Your opening statement should be a 15-minute monologue that invokes your IQ, your depth of knowledge of Milton Friedman's literature, and your immunity to simple emotional appeals. Leave the ball in their court. But they'll simply be too stunned to respond with anything but silence and awe. They'll concede, and you will likely get a standing ovation and a few phone numbers.

michael-laugh

[-] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

this has to be satire right? the invoking iq part cant be serious

[-] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

The entire post is tagged as a meme.

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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 60 points 1 month ago

https://archive.is/wip/dN7Lk Fresh archive of what needs to be a site tagline:

I just attended a Marxist lecture for extra credit and had to sit there while the guest condoned not voting, claimed Obama didn't end the war, and called the 2009 loans bailouts. Please make me feel better before I puke.

I'm not joking my more immediate coping mechanism was the catering provided so I had a lot of cookies.

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[-] Real_User@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago

One of the top comments is telling OP to lie about their politics to sleep with people visible-disgust

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago

They really do like Obama.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

It often doesn’t work because they think idpol is all they need to be correct on and can’t be fucked to read enough theory so that they can bullshit through it

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 56 points 1 month ago

Two top comments is how deep I'll let myself go, and both of them mention reading Dune, one of them as theory. Liberal injokes are lame.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

I'm still not sure if those top two comments are leftists making fun of them or not

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

That whole sub seems like some elaborate bit tbh

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[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

I don't get it, Dune is a critique of everything they stand for.

Are the libs irony poisoned too, or just media illiterate?

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

yells-at-cloud a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago

I just went to a lecture where the lecturer told me a bunch of true things I don't like and now I'm shaking and crying uncontrollably kitty-cri-screm

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

You did it! You broke down CHUDs to their bare essentials!

[-] dinklesplein@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago

Honestly I'd argue being open to feedback is the primary requirement to succeeding at...well most anything long-term. So it's not exactly a small difference

i think people of almost every political position like to flatter themselves by saying they're uniquely receptive to feedback and new information and therefore a superior critical thinker. like, saying it does not make it so.

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[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago

What war did Obama end/not end?

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

I imagine they're talking about Iraq? Which Obama eventually pulled out of past the timetable Bush set. And only after many successive parliamentary votes by the Iraqi people for the Americans to leave. And then during his second term it collapsed into another civil war and Obama went back to Iraq.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 month ago

He waged 13 of them, so the choice is broad.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“The.” Oh you don’t know which war was “the”? Shame. Sounds like someone hasn’t been keeping up with their news.

Obviously, “the” war is the one most prominently covered by US media. The other ones are only sparkling wars.

/s

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

That lecturer was actually me.

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

"They insulted Obama. OBAMA. please make me feel better and coddle my insecurities, reaffirm my biases plesae"

Actual adult children. neophyte brainage. how are these people real

[-] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

How is Dune like scripture to these people? I don't get it.

[-] Real_User@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

I think it's an in joke satirizing leftists, but I really don't know

[-] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Oh ok. Seems pretty unserious because it makes no sense, but I suppose that fits too.

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[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

They had to see a homeless person?

[-] git@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Users of that subreddit would better serve the planet as fertiliser.

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