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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Everyone thinks having a puppy girlfriend is all fun and games, well wait until you have to bath her with a hose in the yard because she won't shower

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[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (7 children)

okay, after a 2-1 vote in favor of me saying something, i will now be saying it:

spoiler

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[–] lilypad@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

::: spoiler ableist :america-cool: brained relative

Had a lovely celebration of family, but good lord my uncleinlaw was a fucker. First time meeting him, and he came with some ableist transphobic BS and didnt hear shit from other perspectives. Fucker goin on about freeze-peach in america and making r*-slur jokes, goddamn i almost forget what people are like, all my friends are some form of leftist, and like 85% are trans. Anyway just wanted to vent.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I love third sexing in anthropology. Progressive win

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[–] yewler@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Uhhhhhhhhh I'm going thrifting with a couple of friends in 20 mins and one of those friends offered to help me with my hair and also I finally heard back from the place I was trying to get HRT at and they're calling me later this week to officially get me on the schedule.

It's a good day in gender town

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (8 children)
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[–] Eco@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

what do you mean there was an american politician called larry eagleburger

i genuinely don't believe you

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[–] JosephinaStalin@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I used to think of myself as some sort of mildly sex repulsed ace but nowadays I feel more like some sort of CisHet relationship repulsed demisexual

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[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Feel like I need to stop using this site because I need IRL friends since I'm very lonley, but all the queer groups in my area are full of radlibs and Zionists :( Like its unhealthy to have my main form of social interaction outside of my job be this website, but there is very few people who will click with my interests and queerness

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The trans group chat is pretty cool. And there's a decent level of separation from how hexbear is. Join us sometime catgirl-heart

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[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Euphoria: New outfit items acquired: tights and colored socks.

DysphoriaI have discovered that I have no butt, and that is sad.

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Bit idea: dismiss all non-queer media forever

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[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Woof woof

Pet me pet me pet me pet me pet me pet me pet me pet me pet me pet me

Bark bark

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

spoileri had ^sex^ with a very cool and beautiful person who made me hyperflush

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[–] Yor@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

the surgeon I was going with backed out because he doesn't feel confident enough for my specific case yet. he said he would try to research and contact me again in a few weeks to see if he found any leads for where I go

cw: hopelessness, ventingI tried to tell him I accept that there's uncertainty on outcomes and complications and even having a phallus alone would help me so much, but that wasn't enough.

exhausting every way you can think of trying to convince someone to take a chance and pull you from the misery only for him to kindly and firmly refute each is difficult. feeling completely backed into a corner with nothing but acceptance that this grim era will continue without the hope I was holding onto, it really is difficult

I just want someone to help me

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[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

she zuck my mark till i erberg. this reads like a fucking eco post

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[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Day 1 of recovery. Monsplasties suck as much if not more than paniculectomies. My boobs ache like hell. I can’t find my ibuprofen and have to take oxy and I hate taking oxy. Moving is very painful and I hate it.

On the other hand, I feel more at peace with my body than I ever have. I feel like me for the first time ever. I’d gladly deal with this pain for that feeling.

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[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I had to cut my anti androgen and now I have a longing for girltwinks and am getting pissed I'm not growing fangs to bite them with >:(

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seeing Cenk Uygur flip his arms like a toddler while arguing about the β€œissues” of trans rights makes me glad that the online left has moved past TYT.

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[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (26 children)

day one of not doing the mega and i already miss having my notifications ruined...

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[–] morte@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not to suck my own gock but i think my boobs are really really great and im so happy with them. Theyre very pretty, well proportioned and never fail to make me feel better ab my body even when i have severe dysphoria. Sadly a lot of the women in my family have had breast cancer, idk what id do if i lost mine to that. Cry a lot and throw up and shit myself at the bare minimum most likely

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[–] nemmybun@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

holidays, family, wistfulI can't stand spending time with my family. They're hateful miserable people, just awful to be around and reactionary as fuck and during the holidays their bullshit is dialed up to max. When I came out, I decided to cut them off. I didn't want to hear their hateful opinions about me or my transition. I didn't want to give them the chance to hurt me again.

And I'm overall happy with that decision. But now the holidays remind me how small my world really is. I don't want to be around mine but I do wish I had a caring family to spend time with. One that loves and appreciates me for who I am.

[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Welp, I can no longer get blood tests for my diy doggirl-sweat my gp doesn't want to do it unless I start the process of trying to get meds the legitimate way, but i'm not willing to suffer through the shitty, extremely transphobic gatekeeper national service to maybe after like 3-4 years get oral or transdermal hrt when it's much more convenient for me to do injection monotherapy and not have to be on an anti-androgen.

Idk what to do, even though it hasn't been hard for me to get my test supressed and stuff I would feel a lot safer if I could just get routine check-ups every few months.

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[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

I LOVE MY TRANS COMRADES

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

Once again just woke up and drinking coffee

[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

depressionWas trying on writing a thing linking me not enjoying smut because I'm asexual, along with only really snjoying it because i long for companionship. it just kinda turned into me being really sad. Got depressed, had a few panics attacks. Gonna try just going to sleep. Also need to get a new psychiatrist because they last few I've had all sucked and I haven't had someone to talk about my problems (and fail to provide solitions) to for months.

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I think I sing as a stim. It really clears the brain out, not much else to focus on when you are. I tend to get riffs or lines stuck in my brain anyway, like the chorus line to Baron Saturday... I'm definitely not any good at it at all, I'm just some nerd plus I never took voice training very seriously, but also my singing is definitely a blessing to these walls and anyone who hears it.

I'm probably "best" at old Who songs and 1970s Golden Earring stuff like that, but I most enjoy trying to do KT Tunstall (even if I could never pull the high notes on Other Side of the World) or 70s era Heart tunes. Maybe this is why I really dig low smoky femme vocals, Idk.

Just belting random things out 24/7, absolutely breaking into song for no reason at the drop of a hat. It's more productive than a picking stim!!! (My throat hurts ow)

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[–] Eco@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

i hate my job

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Ah who needs girl clothes when you can just listen to shoegaze all day long kel-bliss

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[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I kinda just don’t care about sex anymore. Like it’s still enjoyable but I don’t crave it in the way that I crave food. Chat does this mean the estrogen is working?

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[–] hellomao@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

spoilerMenstruation is making me suicidal. I hate this.
pika-cousin-suffering

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My doctor: get your cholesterol under control and then we can raise your dose

Okay but I'm too depressed to have be able to stick with a diet can we just try increasing the estrogen and manage everything from there?

I unilaterally decided to up my dose my just taking more. Only up to the minimum recommended dose for two weeks now I think. I haven't felt better in ages and finding the motivation to eat healthy, get exercise, and socialize, has never been greater. We really need to drill into the medical community how important HRT is and to get up to an effective dose asap. Maybe it's a placebo but it feels real and the effects are real so w/e.

[–] Hime@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

I did a module on social anthro and women's history and it covered similar bits. Best part of uni and it was only a side module.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

looking in the mirror and seeing a visibly fucked up clocky trans girl, which is fair because i am a visibly fucked up clocky trans girl

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[–] thoughtful_poster@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 months ago (7 children)

ok so like... its a bad idea to date someone in the military no matter how cool he seems right... i think i know the answer just wanna check.... bcus we spent the day talking about foucault and fanon and weber and like.. yeah

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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Anyone know any good spaces or accounts that talk about classical tailoring type shit for transfem people, like sports coats, dorky scarves/ascots, non-denim trousers type shit?

Most of what I find just casually searching is heavily geared towards transmasc people instead, and a lot of transfem fashion tends to lean either very feminine alt or harder butch.

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