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Trump answered a voter’s question about failing school systems by saying, “No transgender, no operations—you know, they take your kid—there are some places, your boy leaves for school, comes back a girl. Okay? Without parental consent.” He added, “At first, when I was told that was actually happening, I said, you know, it’s an exaggeration. No: it happens. It happens. There are areas where it happens.”

Good lord. In a world where people will believe something like this, what hope is there really.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 232 points 5 days ago (18 children)

I'll never forgive the people who worked to put this fascist in power again.

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[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 14 points 3 days ago

This is insanity

[–] zooi@feddit.nl 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What if we just [REDACTED]

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Surely it is THIS that will help those grocery prices...

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 134 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Blatantly unconstitutional, and he knows it. But the point isn't to win on this issue, it's to move the Overton window a little more and to sow more chaos.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 66 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think we left our legal system behind a while ago.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What

The

Actual

Fuck?

By supporting they mean what? Calling the kid the name they want to be called by?

They don't necessarily need to explicitly teach gender and racial studies, whatever. But don't tell my kids' teachers they can't be courteous to the kids. The kids don't care one bit when someone who was a girl comes back saying they are a boy, they are nonchalant as fuck about it.

You have lost this round, conservatives. The generation who will raise the next generation is already grown up with more reasonable teaching and parents who model tolerance, there are too many of us for you to be able to control us.

Go back to your lairs and work on some other evil plan.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

By supporting they mean what? Calling the kid the name they want to be called by?

Yes.

(e) “Social transition” means the process of adopting a “gender identity” or “gender marker” that differs from a person’s sex. This process can include psychological or psychiatric counseling or treatment by a school counselor or other provider; modifying a person’s name (e.g., “Jane” to “James”) or pronouns (e.g., “him” to “her”); calling a child “nonbinary”; use of intimate facilities and accommodations such as bathrooms or locker rooms specifically designated for persons of the opposite sex; and participating in school athletic competitions or other extracurricular activities specifically designated for persons of the opposite sex. “Social transition” does not include chemical or surgical mutilation.

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[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We just keeping making it harder to be a teacher without paying them any more.

How can we organize funding for a national teachers' strike?

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Supporting people is lawful.

Whether the laws he passes are legitimate, up for debate.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Executive orders only effect federal organizations. Public schools are all state officiated. I don't know a single teacher that falls under his purview. Aka any teacher punished should win in court without issue unless the courts wish to completely illegitimate themselves.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

His EOs aren't laws. That takes Congress.

[–] 790@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's a good thing we gave his party the majority in both houses of Congress, right?

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[–] deacon@lemmy.world 87 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Surely this will finally rein in the price of eggs.

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 57 points 4 days ago (3 children)

“No transgender, no operations—you know, they take your kid—there are some places, your boy leaves for school, comes back a girl. Okay? Without parental consent.” He added, “At first, when I was told that was actually happening, I said, you know, it’s an exaggeration. No: it happens. It happens. There are areas where it happens.”

Gotta wonder if he's manufacturing reality or if he's also caught up in a manufactured reality.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can't believe there's a single person who believes that children are being snuck into hospitals to just have a quick 20,000 dollar surgery that takes months to fully recover from during lunch and sneaking them home without anyone noticing

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago

If they had critical thinking skills, we wouldn't have Trump as president.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

It's definitely both.

He's a conman by nature, not by intelligence.

He inherently knows he has to manufacture lies to get what he wants, but he's very clearly not an actually intelligent person and you can clearly tell sometimes that he's 100% bought into some conspiracy theories, the same way any dumb person would. The guy's brain is mostly fried, but the conman in his nature is still there. Will be until he's 6 feet under.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 98 points 5 days ago (3 children)

There's just no words for this level of evil.

The book burning and internet crackdown will surely start soon. Kiss the first amendment goodbye.

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[–] loon@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

"Love and acceptance unlawful in Trump's America," better title.

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 82 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Being an educator in this day and age seems so difficult, we are taught all the studies and theories of healthy child development, how to promote healthy social emotional learning, but we must fight parents and increasely the law to maintain a safe, healthy social environmental layer.

Good educators are already beaten down from so many things and have become rare, but I know most of my colleagues and friends have no intention of bending knee to this and policies aimed at hurting students we fight for, and I desperately hope this sentiment is shared by many across our country.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 40 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I desperately hope this sentiment is shared by many across our country.

I'll leave this here...from 3 days ago: Teacher asks ICE to raid his school, says many students 'don't even speak English'

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Thanks, I wasn't depressed enough, but that really did the trick!

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[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 55 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Hey acceleratiionists and people who Harris "wasn't good enough" for, remember that you could've helped stop this shit before it even happened. Now people are going to suffer and die under this regime that you helped bring to power

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Them: Don't care, at least my eggs are cheaper...wait

Them: Don't care, I showed America that their two party system sucks...wait

Then: Don't care, voting doesn't matter anyway...wait

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Let's play the "replace the group with jews and see if they sound like a Nazi"

Trump tells DOJ to proescute teachers who unlawfully support jewish students.

Eyup

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Fascism isn't coming.

It's already here.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The fuck is the first amendment?

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 65 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

This really is reminiscent of early Nazi Germany, with an obsession over trans people (like Jews), and the idea that they're the root of so much evil, and the constant implication that things would be better if they just go away...

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

The Nazis didn't start by rounding up the Jews, they started with the "sexual deviants". The parallel is a lot closer than you think.

Transgender people in Nazi Germany

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

They already made women second class citizens. Now they're moving on to vulnerable minorities.

Sound like any other examples from history?

I'd say the alarms have started going off, but they've been going off for quite some time now. Deaf and dumb Americans as a whole can't hear them though.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 65 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

In the executive order issued Wednesday evening, titled “Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 schooling,” Trump directs the attorney general to work with local and state officials to investigate teachers who “unlawfully facilitat[e] the social transition of a minor student.” The order defines “social transitioning” to include using a trans student’s name and pronouns, recognizing a student as nonbinary, or allowing them to use the restroom that aligns with their gender identity.

Ordinary people are going to have to start accepting the risk and actually fighting back. They're a week and a half in, and already ordering Americans not to even recognise the existence of trans and nonbinary children, on threat of prosecution. It's not just about denying them healthcare now (which in itself is terrible), it's about preventing trans kids knowing anyone even sees them for who they are, or that they are seen and loved. The only outcome will be depression, loneliness and suicide, and Republicans want your kids dead if they don't fit some very narrow mold they've pulled out of their own violent insecurities.

People need to fight now. Each day people lie low and wait to see where this is going, the chances of ever fighting back get slimmer.

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[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Crickets from conservatives who love to screech about free speech

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What the fuck does it even mean to “support” students? Jesus fucking Christ, I am so sick of the republican traitor filth.

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[–] manorexia@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

If we don't ban trans people, then Trump could end up mistakenly raping a dude, and we can't have that! What would he even grab them by?

[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I believe it's known as a bussy.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Dipshit Donnie, your executive orders are not laws. They also only apply to federal government. As far as I know, we don't have federal schools except for the armed forces academies.

They'll probably end up making federal aid contingent on being assholes. Just like how Reagan coerced the states into 21 year old drinking age by withholding highway funds.

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

It works like this:

  • Teach at a public school
  • That school receives funding directly or indirectly from federal programs under the executive branch, including the Department of Education
  • DEI support disqualifies institutions from receiving Federal funds
  • Supporting DEI and trans rights while receiving Federal funds counts as defrauding the US government
  • DOJ takes up the case

While EOs are not laws, they have the potential to do massive amounts of damage because most of the government runs on agencies under control of the Executive. And while universities and public schools are not federal, they receive shit tons of funds through grants, contracts, and subsidies from a wide array of federal agencies (see: academic panic at the NSF and NIH halting grant review and funding as a result of Trump’s recent orders).

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We're deciding right now how much power Executive Orders have.

It had strict definitions for its use, now the president is trying to stretch that power further.

How many people comply without being physcially forced is what determines how much power he truely has.

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[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How long do we have to wait for impeachment?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

Dictators are never removed by peaceful means. You can't vote them out. You can't impeach them.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you noticed how nothing is being passed through the house or senate? He's not getting impeached. It happened twice before with no results.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

But what does “discriminatory equity ideology” actually mean? The order defines it as “ideology that treats individuals as members of preferred or disfavored groups, rather than as individuals, and minimizes agency, merit, and capability in favor of immoral generalizations.”

Oh for fucks sake. That literally describes how racism, sexism, and bigotry work: by treating people as part of a preferred or disfavored group instead of individuals.

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