Cars are so free. I love freely driving down a predetermined path set by a road that is jammed every morning by other people freely driving the same free path as me to our free job that most of us freely hate. I'm so fucking free.

This irrational hatred of livable cities is fascinating to me. These people are so used to their government never helping the people that they assume anything a government does is automatically bad, and livable cities must be part of some nefarious government plot to...destroy cars and make people reliant on the government or something? As if paying rego for a car and having easily identifiable license plates doesn't make you easy to track in your movements. As if people aren't forced to comply by their government already? I've never understood this aspect of conspiratorially minded people. They're always worried about some potential "future government oppression" slippery slope if we ever do anything positive for society. Why are they so obsessed with society being run into the ground to prevent "oppression"? Insert Parenti quote here.

I spent 5 hours swapping an alternator, tell me more about this freedom with my cut up arms and bruised knuckles just so i can keep this rolling monument to debt together.

"The worse the traffic the freer the people."

I was saying to abolish cars

I'm so scared for these people when the lights go out and they can't get to a gas station. Suddenly their only means of freedom is a lawn ornament and they'll be trapped.

If only they were as oppressed as they think they are

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre_Extinguishers

A lot of those people aren't ever travelling more than 5 miles. A cargo-bike with some electrical aid makes biking accesible for most anyone.
If you are disabled driving isn't really an option in most cases.
Most of the things that make bikes unacessible is inadequate infrastructure and an over-reliance on cars. Kids can't drive cars, they can ride bikes. If you have traffic that is safe enough for kids to bike on their own, then you have suddenly freed up their parents from having to transport them. The world is now also accesible to children.
It is easier for a walking-impaired person to cross a bike lane than a road. Bike-centric infrastructure is also more accesible for those that cannot ride bikes.
Bike-centric infrastructure requires not just bike paths, but a placement of daily needs within about 15 minutes radius. This placement again means that it is more accesible for the physically impaired - especially when combined with public transport.
Cars are inacessible.
Read Invisible women. Read the Vienna manual for Gender Mainstreaming. Read Making Mobilities Matter.

Freedom is when you have no choice but to buy petroleum.

"So you're in favor of 15 minute cities so we don't need to limit 'real freedom' to car ownership right?"

It's not like we're abolishing cars or roads

Lol, he's talking about the ULEZ probably. The mayors have put up cameras to make Ultra Low Emissions Zones because the air quality in London (and other major cities) is giving people cancer and asthma. If you have a car that isn't within the regulations you had an option to trade it in with government assistance of like £2000. Some people got fucked over a bit because there was a big push for diesel a few years ago, and now they're not within regulation. That's the minority though.

The cameras are dishing out big fines so far. One guy staged a failed hunger strike against the cameras, while other people are cutting the cameras down and then posting it on social media, only to be caught immediately as a result. Britain's greatest minds.

see the camera system in the UK that's being attacked by the so called "blade runners".

The neonazi group that referred to the protest where they were destroying speed cameras as "the night of long knives"?

Probably not the group to bring up when you want to harp on about "real freedoms".

Fact is

Redditbrains and their "if I feel about strongly it is immutable scientific fact" takes.

cars are real freedom

The freedom to be shackled to payments, insurance, repairs, fuel, and entire civilizations built around humoring "cars are real freedom" lead-brains.

Cars are real freedom. Haven't you been listening to the commercials?

The chain around your foot that constantly needs money to maintain is freedom.

           Abolishing roads

Anti Car Leftists Libertarians

Beeing super dependant on cars is Freeeeedom.

They aren’t even banning cars, just the ones that aren’t woke enough.

The only car I want to see on the road is that chuckle brothers cycle car thing.