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not hating misled trump voters is actually a really good idea and more people need to try it

not saying that the actually insane ones arent worth hating, but some people are just maga bc everyone they know is

If they're genuinely apologetic and recognize they made a terrible choice, then yes... Welcome back to reality.

There is a path to redemption, and recognizing your past mistakes is part of that.

That's the right thing to do. Making it easy for people to accept that they were wrong makes it much easier to pull support from the opposing party. If you constantly ridicule, mock or insult them, they are much more likely to stick with their opinion simply because they do not want to accept that you were right.

A vast majority on lemmy should learn this aswell.

Instead of "if you're not with us, you're against us",

It's "as long as you're against them, you can be with us."

And frankly, that's what we need right now.

First past the post voting is fucking garbage but this is how you're supposed to engage it; it's NEVER EVER EVER EVER going to be good for supporting the lesser of two evils.

Instead, the best thing it can ever do is punish the greater evil

And these are VERY DIFFERENT GOALS.

If people were voting to punish the Trump campaign, Kamala would have won.

Notably, people very much voted to punish Kamala instead. Even the ones on the left. And boy did we show her -_- now we ALL get to suffer.

Too bad I don't know any that stop drinking the kool-aid (flavor aid), they still think that hurting liberals makes hurting conservatives worth it.

As much as it's fun to say fuck you I told you so, you catch more flies with honey. We need to make it easy to leave the cult and not make people double down just because they feel ashamed or feel like they have to defend something. The goal, while enticing, is not to rub people's nose in the shit they admittedly helped create. The goal should be to get rid of this motherfucker and reverse everything he's done.

Yall maybe forgiving but not i any and all Trump voters are traitors. Because you cannot stand there and listen to this man commit sedition

Say shit like "i have a concept of a plan"

And still slap knee "gosh darn it that is the man I must vote for president what a patriot!"

Fuck that. Cowards all of them. Every single one in gov. And every single voter.

Remember the women who slept with Nazis and after the war? That's Trump supporters.

It's never to late to do the right thing.

No we don't. MAGAts are fucking stupid. They knew what they voted for and got EXACTLY what they were told they were voting for.

Hey, so long as they're willing to put the ones who aren't apologetic against the wall

That’s fantastic. This encourages taking personal responsibility over their action. I think it’s important to allow people to learn and grow, without the shame. Shame keeps people locked into their false beliefs. The more apologetics we have, the faster change will come. With that said, don’t forget these people. They still have fucked up beleifs.

I think there's a difference between someone who voted trump and realized they fucked up in a like deep , systemic, way, and someone who doesn't like this specific implemention of right wing stuff.

Like, if they regret trump but keep voting R, that's not good.

And when these trump voters vote for republicans again, democrats will blame the left. Again.

Seems to be a division here based on the (ex)Trumpanzee's sincerity vs not.

My thought is who gives a shit if they're sincere? The goal isn't to convert them, it's to defeat Trump and people like Trump - if a former Trump voter can be used against him, I have no issues at all with at least pretending to accept that that person is having an authentic denazification. Whether or not they're truly capable of self reflection is kinda moot