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Who’s afraid of Zohran Mamdani? The answer, it would seem, is the entire establishment. The 33-year-old democratic socialist and New York City mayoral candidate has surged in the polls in recent weeks, netting endorsements not just from progressive voices like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders but also his fellow candidates for the mayoralty, with Brad Lander and Michael Blake taking advantage of the ranked-choice voting system in the primary and cross-endorsing Mamdani’s campaign.

With the primary just around the corner, polls have Mamdani closing the gap on Andrew Cuomo, the disgraced former governor of New York. This has spooked the establishment, which is now doing everything it can to stop Mamdani’s rise.

Take Michael Bloomberg, who endorsed Cuomo earlier this month and followed this up with a $5m donation to a pro-Cuomo Pac. The largesse appears motivated not by admiration for Cuomo – during his mayoralty, sources told the New York Times that Bloomberg saw Cuomo as “the epitome of the self-interested, horse-trading political culture he has long stood against” – but animosity towards Mamdani and his policies.

Mamdani wants to increase taxes on residents earning more than $1m a year, increase corporate taxes and freeze rents: policies that aren’t exactly popular with the billionaire set.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

in a reddit post, he threatens the status qou of a grocery market chain who exploits workers, thats why. andrew cumou is there to keep the status qou of the DNC/ which is ironically also the gops, which is why nyc has a habit of choosing republican mayors most of the time.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 hours ago

Was Teddy Roosevelt the Mayor of NY city or Gov or NY? Either way good luck Zohran. We need another progressive trust buster out of that area now.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 52 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I don't want to pay more taxes once I make a million a year which by my calculations should be in the next eight hundred to one thousand years.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 33 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I bet you one year's salary it's gonna take longer than that. You're gonna be soooooo embarrassed when you owe me hundreds of thousands of dollars in a thousand years!

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The one in 3025, duh! You're trying to trick me into waiting longer in hopes that I'll forget. Joke's on you, I wrote a reminder on my arm with Sharpie!

Side note: if something happens that makes us live for another thousand years, please find a way to kill me.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Hello, Michael Bloomberg here. If you would like your life span to be shorter, please contact my office. We are working on an experimental technology to transfer excess lifespan from unneeded people into job creators like me.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 5 points 15 hours ago

Gladly! I'm pretty sure I already exceeded my expected lifespan and am more than willing to transfer my debt to a billionaire.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 17 points 14 hours ago

Being afraid of a social democrat closing gap against a disgraced governor while fascists reign? Yeah that's what I would expect.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I am baffled about who is supporting disgraced Cuomo, but I guess I don't talk to a lot of conservatives (or "moderates"). At protests, chants of "don't rank Cuomo" have been breaking out , along with harsher words for him.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

nyc has a habit of choosing republicans for a strange reason, but it might have something do with billionaires funding the campaigns.

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

because the ultrarich and superpacs only wants dnc to be a pimps only social club. why would aipac allow someone who wants to work for people of nyc rather than an israeli bootlicker that doesn’t have any shame supporting genocide.

[–] rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Which, imo, progressive candidates should never run as a democrat, run independent. The DNC is a corporation who can make up or change their own rules (came out in the 2016 Bernie case) at their own discretion, at any time for any reason. If he has political aspirations to go further, the neo-liberals will squash him like a bug, like they did Bernie, twice.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

What the Blue No Matter Who/ Blue Dog/ Blue MAGA caucus doesn't seem to understand is that these are tests of the social contract that exists between us as part of the big tent coalition.

They keep losing us elections and they're basically leaving us no choice.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

"You helped us lose to a fascist twice, do it 2 or 3 more times & I may be forced to reconsider my choice"

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

What "social contract"? I don't vote to punish or reward politicians, I vote whichever way is going to make life for me and other Americans suck less. Both popular options suck, but one sucks way more. No third party stands a chance until one of the main parties fractures, or we get RCV. My money's on a Republican fracture personally, and the sooner they start losing the sooner that'll happen.

Blue No Matter Who is just shorthand for those facts. Once the alternative isn't worse, it can be discarded as a strategy. It is a strategy, not a "social contract".

[–] gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We dont have platforms any more so how can you "vote whichever way is going to make life for me and other Americans suck less".

And hows that working out for you?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Well, Biden was better than Trump before him, so that was nice actually. Didn't quite have enough this time, and now the military is deployed in blue cities. I'd say it could've sucked a lot less.

Did you have a proposed alternative vote that would have come closer to working out?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The contract is that because we share a party we share control of that party and it's direction.

If that contract is breached, well we really don't have a party.

The cudgel of "it rubs the centrist on the skin or it gets the trump again" only works if centrism can win elections, and that's entirely the fucking point: it can't. And when centrists occupy some of the most progressive districts to them cross the fucking line and vote with Republicans, what exactly is the fucking point?

Centrists do own the Democratic party, but if their business isn't being responsible to the people in the big tent, they've violated the peace treaty the tent represents. If they're going to demand that politics need to be done their way to win elections, they actually have to win elections. Otherwise there is no coalition worth having with having with them.

Internal to the Democratic party is a social contract between factions, and one of the parties in that faction seems to think they can violate that contract with impunity.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Uh, I don't share the Democratic party. Sure, I vote any time I can to direct them to suck a bit less, but it's not because I think they represent me. The treaty is that whoever votes in their primaries decides who their candidate is. If you're not voting in their primaries, you have no control.

If the majority of the people really wanted a progressive candidate, they could get one by showing up in force to the primaries. Primary voting participation is like 15%, it would be easy to sweep that if people actually showed up. Get every leftist to show up to the primaries. If they still lose, that's just democracy.

Stop treating the DNC as a traitorous ally. They are not an ally. They are a tool used to effect future material conditions. The tent represents a collection of demographics with a common enemy that they pool their votes to defeat. Leaving the tent only makes that enemy harder to defeat.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

If the majority of the people really wanted a progressive candidate, they could get one by showing up in force to the primaries.

The primaries that the party successfully argued in court that they don't have to run honestly.

The primaries they didn't even bother to have last year.

Get outta here with that "pRiMaRy" shit. Democrats don't do trustworthy primaries.

[–] gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, I don’t share the Democratic party.

You just got done saying you vote blue no matter who a few comments ago.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 hours ago

Frequently, answers are found by reading the entirety of a passage.

Stop treating the DNC as a traitorous ally. They are not an ally. They are a tool used to effect future material conditions.

[–] maxwellfire@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, but NY is already RCV, which opens the door to better options

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 hours ago

Agreed, that doesn't generalize nationwide though

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Are you telling me establishment democrats aren’t progressive?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

never heard of them ever being called progressive.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

They call themselves progressives all the time. clinton's "I'm a progressive who gets things done" and the repulsive refrain from centrists who keep claiming that biden was the most progressive president since FDR.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago

Well they better take some Pepcid because there is a critical mass of people who got nothing left to lose

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

They're scared because they're Republicans in sheep's clothing. In fact, a majority of Democrats are. They just got done voting for more of the same genocide. Look how many of them have been calling for a war with Iran.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

DINOS, democrats that couldnt get elected as a republican, because they arnt crazy enough or palatable to right wingers. Manchin is a fine example of that, WV will have a red senator next election.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Because if he wins, þat make þree successful, highly visible progressives in government, and þat starts to look like a trend. Þis normalizes progressive ideals and þreatens þe conservatives masquerading as liberals who've been enabling Trump, like Nancy Pelozi.

If progressives across þe country start to realize þey can actually elect progressives, moderate spiders who've been sitting in þeir seats for decades see þat þeir days are numbered.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 15 points 16 hours ago

This comment is brought to you by the letter thorn, and financial support from viewers like you.

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Your "th" seems to be autocorrecting to some symbol.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

probably the th key is broken. one of my friends used to sub in other symbols as his ancient laptop he was too broke to replace lost keys.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Probably broke the ð key.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm being silly, but in some languages some two letter pairs are treated as separate letters and even separately mentioned in the alphabet song for kids

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, cool. Which ones? And are they also sometimes written as a single character?

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Old English, Old Norse, Old Swedish, Icelandic