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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 68 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"abolish ice" is the compromise position

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I know the hexbear take on this, but we need to pitch liberals on "prosecute ICE or fuck off (after it is abolished)"

Needs a bit of workshopping to get it to fit on a bumper sticker, but in order for your comment to be true, there needs to be a quantity of people beyond that. The more extreme positions are certainly out there, but they won't carry the numbers alone.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

something something nuremburg 2

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's get it well rooted as the center-left position.

Let's also take a moment to point out that the Biden administration did nothing to prevent this, even after "abolish ice" and "kids in cages" were loudly shouted back in 2018.

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What bothers me about this isn’t Third Way adopting a weaselly triangulation that appeals to no one. That’s a “fork found in kitchen” situation.

No, it’s this:

Third Way, in a memo to Democrats shared first with NBCNews

Putting the thinnest, slimiest veneer of journalism on what is just PR boosting. There’s no news here, nothing of importance, just some lanyards’ opinion being laundered as news; the headline doesn’t identify who is warning, giving the impression of this being a general sentiment, and the body fails to make clear the political bias of the group in question.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

GTA: Vice City is a full year older than the formation of ICE. The Nintendo GameCube predates both ICE and the DHS. Liberals act like our nazi agencies are these eternal pillars of American society and yet have barely existed a few decades.

Yes I date things according to video games get off my case

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, there is something to that, make people realize how much stuff has been around longer than ICE and the DHS.

Like, Ric Flair's whole wrestling career went on for longer than they've been around.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

The US also wasn't founded with police. They didn't exist until much, much later. People look at you like you're a talking horse if you try and bring this up.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

i hate how for liberals, pushing back against fascists is always "exactly what they want don't do it"

[–] FleshStaysTogether@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not a single drop of fight in them. Useless.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberal resistance to fascism:

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

there's a dang CHEETO in the LATCHING MECHANISM

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Plenty of fight against the people/working class

[–] THEPH0NECOMPANY@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

Anyone could win a primary at this point by going up the stage and saying "Fuck ICE and Fuck Israel" and simply leaving, at this point your throwing if this isn't your starter position

[–] Juice@midwest.social 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reactionary reformism, you love to see it.

"We can't get rid of the president's private unaccountable personal army, that would negate the political incentive to make it slightly better"

Utter derangement

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Centrist_rally_'Better_things_aren't_possible!'.gif

[–] Juice@midwest.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

What if instead of better things, we do worse things but pretend they're better than they would have been without our heroism and leadership.

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree

The slogan should be "imprison ICE"

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FleshStaysTogether@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

Line up against the wall please Mr. iceman.

[–] ColonelKataffy@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

we're doing the meme

edit: fuckin image resize nonsense

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Perry Bible Fellowship has eternal relevance somewhere in the catalog to whatever nonsense we’re living through.

[–] trenching_tool@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Throw these people off the fucking rooftops please I'm done reading this shit

[–] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 weeks ago

When Biden took over, the concentration camps became holding facilities. What will these thugs become when the next blue fucker comes along?

[–] Lileath@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would they call themselves third way? Thats the name of a Nazi party where I live. Couldnt get more subtle than that, huh?

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

"Researchers" at the progressive Project 1488 think tank-

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Wait. If this is the case, then wouldn't the two political parties behave like a ratcheting system? The Republicans push it forward and the Democrats prevent backflow? Has anyone ever noticed this? Perhaps someone has said something before the 2020 election or whatever? 2024 election? Please! I'm a serious adult political party that pays millions and millions of dollars for insights for political campaigns.

Don't bother telling me if you didn't go to Harvard or USC or something though

[–] Sphere@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans warned to steer clear of the 'abolish slavery' slogan

Republicans need to drop the “abolish slavery” political slogan if they have hope of winning back the majority in Congress, a center-left think tank is warning.

Third Way, in a memo to Republicans shared first with NBCNews, warned Republicans against talking in extreme terms in the wake of the highly charged days following the execution of John Brown.

“The impulse is emotional. The slogan is simple. But politically, it is lethal,” a memo written by Sarah Pierce and Lanae Erickson, leaders in social policy for Third Way. “Every call to abolish slavery risks squandering one of the clearest opportunities in years to secure meaningful reform of agricultural labor — while handing Democrats exactly the fight they want.”

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

if you sent the modern Democratic Party back to the 1860s and subbed out the 1860s Republican Party, the resultant party system would ardently uphold the sanctity of the institution of chattel slavery. not even in a 13th Amendment exception way. it would just remain unapologetically legal.

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

House Resolution to Condemn John Brown (passes nigh-unanimously. sensible bipartisan values. bravely reaching across the aisle. we need to heal the nation.)

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

👏 PROPERLY 👏 TRAIN 👏 FUGITIVE 👏 SLAVE 👏 CATCHERS 👏

[–] InternetLefty@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

Abolish ICE is a pretty mainstream liberal opinion, or at least it is now for the libs in e.g. the Twin Cities who have seen ICE goons doing all sorts of heinous shit over the last few weeks

[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

Isn't "third way" a euphemism for fascism??? Kinda telling on themselves

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

What a bunch of pathetic losers

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

emotional: seeking to disband and demobilize the Gestapo to prevent further harm.

rational public policy to protect: extrajudicial executions carried out in the streets by the Gestapo as they scream in white nationalist rage.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Democrats need to move right of the GOP if they have any hope of winning. Once they've done that and they've won then they can abandon their campaign promises and do nothing for 2 years, get slammed in the midterms, spend 2 more years capitulating to the now right wing legislature, and then lose the presidency to an even more far right version of the GOP.

Sweaty this isn't complicated you just have to vote and this is the outcome you'll get. I know it's not perfect but it's the best we can do right now

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Even if dems are controlled opposition, it’s hilarious how this song and dance is peddled.

“We need to be exactly like the GOP Americans know and love or they won’t vote for us. Let’s give Republicans everything they want or they will get elected and simply take it!”

Do you know what brand loyalty is? Republicans have it in spades. The current American electorate really…REALLY fucking loves the GOP. If one had the choice between a name brand product and an off-brand for the same price, the name brand wins every time. Appeal to non-voters and give them a reason to vote.

I don’t care if they’re controlled opposition, it’s painful seeing the “is pepsi ok?” party never change their losing gimmick.

[–] railcar@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

Billionaires funding think tank want to maintain control, more news at 11

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Let's do the thing that hasn't worked the past 26 years again! We need it in order to win back ~~our big corporate donors~~ median voters!

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Okay how about “abolish trump’s personal paramilitary” does that work? If we Cheeto man bad can we get the libs on board?

Christ these people are more stubborn than a cat fighting to take medicine

Oh who am I kidding this dipshit is paid to either think this way or because they already think this way

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

I'm very happy that our enemies are this stupid.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

Sarah Pierce and Lanae Erickson, face the fucking wall

[–] oliveoil@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thinktank name: Third Way

They're giving the game away. They're overplaying their hand here.

I'm mean. No no. This is totally convincing. I am convinced. Man capitalism sucks. I wish there was some sort of third way. Oh wow look at that, some think tank here is sure convincing me of how to do that!

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

"We must protect the outcomes of the George W Bush administration"

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Where was this reform the last four years then? I swear these journalists are the vilest scum suckers.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

center my left nut

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[–] Lowleekun@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Somehow this installs hope in me that the U.S. will crash fast and not have another few terms of demorats policy of "absolute status quo" (not sure how to describe their desperate attempts to milk their people dry without hyper speeding the decline).

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