Political Memes

Conservative: “We just think that laws should matter. These people are here in violation of the law.”

Liberal: “Our immigration laws are a mess though and don’t meet anyone’s needs. Don’t you think we should overhaul that whole system?”

Conservative: “Sure. We can agree on that. But before we talk about new laws, we have to obey the laws we have.”

Liberal: “Let me get this straight: we should take a law everyone agrees is totally broken, go out and fully implement it, by force if necessary, and THEN fix it?”

Conservative: “You don’t understand. This is about rule of law. You either respect the laws of this country or you don’t.”

Liberals: “Laws like Roe v. Wade?”

Conservative: “Well that’s not a law that’s a court ruling.”

Liberal: “I see. So that one loses on a technicality. But a completely broken set of laws gets you out into the streets, up in arms?”

Conservative: “Here’s the part where you call me a racist.”

Liberal: “…”

Conservative. “We just think that laws should matter.”

It always seemed obvious to me that the real criminals here are the owner class who are exploiting undocumented immigrants. They didn't want to give amnesty because that would mean they would have to follow rules such as minimum wage, etc. They have a business incentive to keep these people "illegal". Of course these people overwhelmingly vote Republican.

Also, if conservatives don't want refugees here, perhaps they could stop supporting US interventions in Latin America? Oh, and why not do something about climate change too because that will create even more refugees?

I've had people complain to me about how many Puerto Ricans there are in the area... my friend, you realize that Puerto Rican are Americans and that is because of imperialism right? The people of that island likely didn't ask to be colonized by Spain and then ceded to the US.

So they're trespassing? Jesus has something to say about that

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Wanda Sykes put it best:

"If someone broke into my house... and vacuumed?

*shrug* same time next week?"

"Kidnapping people, separating them from their family, locking them in prison and then exiling them from the country? That's a horrible thing to do! Unless of course they happen to have not done some paperwork correctly and were born on the other side of this line we drew in the dirt, then its just common sense." /s

The leading reason to oppose immigration is racism. But people are embarrassed to admit it. Nobody opposes anything because it's illegal.

You can force anyone to admit they don't care about what's legal by simply asking what if we changed the law?

A huge factor in my change from my conservative upbringing was when I escaped the family cult compound and got my first job working in a warehouse with a lot of illegal hires. I learned spanish, I had my lunch sabotaged with chili peppers, I got in insulation-foam swordfights with guys my age who were here in the US working 12 hours a day to support their families and start new lives.

I made friends, I learned spanish, I laughed and cried with my fellow humans from far away places.

My boss was a right-wing narcissist who enjoyed torturing these folks with withheld pay and criminal working conditions, and would sometimes call immigration services himself as punishment. I remember coming to work and people I knew were suddenly gone.

edit: the final straw was watching innocent people die in a war the US started for made-up reasons. (This one was Iraq, the second one.) Not just the civilians that were getting blown to pieces by ooh-rah US power while FOX news cheered on, but also I had friends who went to that war and came back in bags, or couldn't deal with the things they saw and ended their own lives. The lack of compassion from the right was outright evil. This isn't the first dance we've had with evil in the US. I've been falling further and further to the left ever since.

Companies hire them illegally and nobody goes after them! Why aren't we enforcing the law for them!? Until you are willing to go out into the fields and pick crops for poverty wages, or advance legislation to enable them to do it legally, STFU about illegal immigration...

Native Americans have entered the chat

But they’re here illegally? Sounds like it’s time to legalize immigration, then.

Want to know what being "illegal" constitutes as? It's a civil misdemeanor. That's it. It's a low offense. But the system is made so you either get ground to a pulp to get in or sneak in then deal with the system afterwards.

Based Cozmo frfr

(His creator is not very based tho)

FTFY:

But they’re here illegally!

While doing everything they can to make it as difficult and expensive as possible yet enjoying the economic benefits of exploited (illegal) labor.

I can oppose illegal migration/support going through proper channels while opposing military action.

The leading reason for hiring illegally is to exploit people in an undesirable position. In my country it's the leading reason legally as well.

Idk...you could pay me to do it. I'd just be "quiet quitting".

There's a huge difference between hating an individual, and wanting the rule of law respected, I think. What's going on now is hatred and destruction, which abuses the name of the law. But saying, "this person is self-evidently in this place illegally, they should be tried and ejected", is not hateful. You can respect a person while saying they shouldn't be in a place.