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Folks, CALM DOWN, this is still in the workshopping phase ok? First we bomb them, then we workshop WHY we bombed them, do you not understand the plan!?

Democrats, predictably, were apoplectic. “There was no imminent threat to the United States of America by the Iranians,” said Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee, who had received classified briefings from Rubio. “There was a threat to Israel. If we equate a threat to Israel as the equivalent of an imminent threat to the United States, then we are in uncharted territory.”


Meanwhile somewhere below decks on the Titanic 11:45 PM (ship's time) on April 14, 1912

Well, if we were to equate the threat of icebergs to an imminent threat to our ship, then we would be in uncharted territory! - a well dressed crew member with an officer's hat calmly explains to a passenger.


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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 minutes ago

Have the war you voted for, MAGAs.

[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

Well they could just tell the truth and admit it was to distract from the Epstein files.

"Operation Epstein Distraction"

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

They gave a reason, it's just stupid.

Rubio said it was a preemptive strike to preempt their strike after the Israeli preemptive strike.

Kinda WW1 logic.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 52 minutes ago

Further proof trump and the republicans haven’t had an original thought in decades.

It's actually perfectly in line with Israeli war doctrine. One of the Arab wars was a preemptive strike against 4 adversaries.

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 1 hour ago

It's a special military operation. Looking forward to seeing the sanctions.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

I haven't seen any news about this, but my family keeps saying that Iran attacked a US outpost first.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

Your family wouldn't happen to be a group of squirrels, would it?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 hour ago

your family didn't write all them lies, they just quote 'em.

US punched first.

[–] normalentrance@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 hour ago

I think you haven't seen any news about that because it isn't true.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The causus belli is probably somewhere in the Epstein files, let's all check them thoroughly!

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

The thing is if these bombings are supposed to be distracting everyone from the tRUMP-Epstein files then why is it called Operation Epstein War?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Epitome of "shoot first, as questions later".

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

More like the epitome of flooding the zone and getting ahead of yourself

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Han shot first, but Greedo was threatening him. It was preemptive self defense.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

They are trying to cause an attack on American soil.

Why? Trump has been very clear about his unhinged plan to use martial law as an excuse to scuttle the midterms. The domestic strategies have repeatedly failed, so now he’s going for a 9/11 10/7 gambit.

Americans, you need to take out your political trash now or get out of the country. Gilead is coming.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 64 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

This is easy one: Trump went to war to get the fact he's child rapist off the front page.

This evil man is just fine with Americans dying to divert attention from his crimes.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 1 hour ago

Bibi has the kompromat.

If Bibi has a problem, Trump has a problem.

[–] TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Probably quid pro quo with the saudis for more oil dominance

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago

They bombed Iran to get people to forget that Trump and his circle are mass-scale slavers, child rapists, and traitorous foreign agents.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 6 points 10 hours ago

america is now a vassal state of the israelis. america gives billions to israel. israelis get free education and healthcare. american taxpayers get cancelled healthcare, cancelled foodstamps, cancelled safety nets. why did you vote for this? i really dont get it.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 50 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

The reason is, and I'll bet a lot of money on this: an LLM told them to.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 1 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

Hypothetically, if a world leader were to ask for advice on such a grave matter, the most responsible and ethical response would be to emphasize the following principles:

1. Diplomacy First

Military action should always be a last resort. Exhaust all diplomatic channels, negotiations, and international cooperation to address conflicts and protect national and global security.

2. Humanitarian and Ethical Considerations

Any decision involving military force must weigh the potential human cost—both for civilians and military personnel—and adhere to international laws, including the principles of proportionality and distinction.

3. Legal and International Obligations

The use of force is governed by international law, including the UN Charter, which permits military action only in self-defense or with Security Council authorization. Unilateral military action without just cause or legal basis risks destabilizing regions and violating international norms.

4. Strategic Consequences

Military action can have far-reaching, unintended consequences, including escalation, regional instability, and long-term geopolitical repercussions. A thorough analysis of risks, benefits, and alternatives is essential.

5. Consultation and Consensus

Engage with allies, international organizations, and domestic stakeholders to ensure any action is justified, proportional, and supported by a broad coalition.

6. Focus on Long-Term Solutions

Address root causes of conflict through economic, political, and social means to achieve sustainable peace and security.

7. Transparency and Accountability

Leaders must be accountable to their citizens and the international community, ensuring that any action is transparent, justified, and aligned with democratic values.

In any real-world scenario, such decisions require input from military, intelligence, legal, and humanitarian experts, as well as public and congressional oversight.

Would you like information on historical precedents, international law, or conflict resolution strategies? I’m here to help provide factual, unbiased insights.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 1 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Hypothetical Conclusion

Even under an "America First" doctrine, bombing Iran would likely be considered only if:

  • There is undeniable evidence of an imminent, severe threat to the U.S. or its core interests.
  • All other options (diplomacy, sanctions, covert action) have been exhausted or are deemed ineffective.
  • The potential benefits outweigh the risks of retaliation, regional chaos, and long-term damage to U.S. interests.

Final Thought: "America First" does not mean acting recklessly—it means prioritizing U.S. security, prosperity, and sovereignty. Military force is a tool, not a strategy, and its use must be calculated to avoid unintended consequences that could ultimately harm America’s standing and safety.

Would you like to explore historical examples (e.g., Iraq, Libya) or alternative strategies for addressing Iran’s actions?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 minutes ago

"Hey Dario Amode, your stupid AI isn't telling me what I want to hear! I demand you remove the guardrails!"

[–] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 67 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Not quite. Israel told them to.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

You're both wrong.

It's because it's a distraction from Epstein. You're not talking about how trump rapes children. If we go to war, that becomes the focus. No longer putting pressure on trump over how trump rapes children. See, I have to keep typing trump rapes children, because society seems to have the memory of a goldfish, and have forgotten that trump rapes children.

Now, view every action he's done since taking office, and underatand understand that EVERYTHING is a distraction from trump raping children.

Now don't forget this time, ok?

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 1 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

None of you are wrong, this is multiple levels of stupid. The dictator wants a war so he can cancel elections, the other even more genocidal dictator wants more genocide so they cook up a plan. These morons shop it to the white supremacist running the department of WAR, and he gets a raging jesus boner at the idea. So they all sit down and ask mecha-hitler for a plan..

That’s where we are.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It’s because it’s a distraction from Epstein. You’re not talking about how trump rapes children.

I believe we're now talking about how he murders children

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Does he murder the children before or after he rapes them?

It's both, isn't it

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 13 points 15 hours ago

I believe we're now talking about how he murders children

Unfortunately, yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_airstrike

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 12 hours ago

It's also very possible that the war is a roudabout consequence of the child rape, assuming Epstein was a Mossad honeypot and Israel really really wants the US to be blowing up Iran right now.

[–] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

I get the sentiment, but war is worse than obvious pedophiles trying and failing to hide their crimes

[–] synae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 16 hours ago

"Actually, Israelis"

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Not really that different

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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

But nothing extraordinary has happened. Just the US started war in the middle east. Happens every 10 or so years

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Bush spent months trying to convince the world that invading Iraq was justified.

Trump didn't even do that.

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[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

There was an article saying it was for religious reasons, military people calling in to a hotline they have to say they were told orders were sanctioned by god or something similar.

I'm not religious (do know a fair but of what pre high school kids tends to learn) but according to the old testament the Christian God(well all same God for participants technically unless I'm misunderstanding my theology) doesn't need help if he wants to wipe out people.

Imagine saying you're on a holy war because Trump says so? That sounds wild even for some of the out there comedies.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Its possible for different people in the same administration to have different motives to do something they both want to do.

I doubt trump is religious at all in any way shape or form. The others though...

[–] towerful@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

Someone high up in the chain made it the messaging, tho.

MRFF has received over 200 calls from more than 50 military installations across all the services since Saturday reporting similar disturbing pronouncements from their Christian zealot commanders.

https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/2026/03/mrff-inundated-with-complaints-of-gleeful-commanders-telling-troops-iran-war-is-part-of-gods-divine-plan-to-usher-in-the-return-of-jesus-christ/

Soubds like it's pretty unified messaging

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago

I don't doubt that the actual people pulling the strings (I'll say 2025 unsure if it was religious sided but think it was) are quite religious. Trump as usual is the greedy idiot they make this the fault of, mean why would the US elect someone who wasn't really proper leader in charge? So he gets the blame, he's at his end run out his usefulness anyways but enough moves have been made they can't go back now so just push forward.

The rapture dudes are all probably in ecstasy at the moment when in reality it'll leave the world in a worse situation.

Wait typing this thing out made me realize the fault of people is not understanding when we're wrong least the higher ups. So many of us can't stand saying we're wrong. I'd rock to tell the US it's okay to be wrong, take your licks and come play with us again. But they're too ornary.

Personally I hate being wrong it's a knife to the gut. But you know what? That's how I learn to improve. I learn not to be wrong in the future from those actions. Too bad the US is run by someone who can't learn a lesson we teach toddlers.

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[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Does it change anything if it's a good excuse?

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 1 hour ago

Its a checks and balances type legal thing.

WMD was at least plausible.

This time they can't even point to something.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 16 hours ago

What I have learned from US superhero movies is that what is important is doing your best and believing in your country no matter what!

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently Israel runs the world now and we are their lapdog. That’s why.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Because Epstein was a mossad agent.

[–] _deleted_@aussie.zone 6 points 16 hours ago

“What a beautiful White House! Look at those drapes! And have you seen the DOW?” the guy is senile and his sycophants don’t want to upset him.

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