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Not sure what retails stores you go to, but most basically say fuck you multiple times per visit. The easy one is the self checkout, or if they don't have that, the one checkers with the massive line while the manager looks on from not too far away. Then you got the grocery stores constantly moving things arpund even though everyone hates that. And the fake sales price that is really just the price... I could go on.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 62 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Pot is rarely laced.

Harder drugs typically have some form of dilution because it is worth it to stretch supply.

The only recent lacing I can think of is fentanyl, which was generally used in pre-existing opioids.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pot is rarely laced.

edit: Be like selling red bull at jet fuel prices

doesn't make fiscal sense.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jet fuel is about $4.30/gallon currently, so it's a lot cheaper than red bull cost per gallon.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yea holy shit I'd assumed it would cost more. Gonna need a better analogy.

edit; Tho you do need special containers for jet fuel that I'd assume cost more than an aluminum can haha

[–] Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

You dont need any special container for jet fuel unless you pressure it. An empty PET soda flask works

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

fentanyl is now being cut with xylazine/tranq, a horse tranquilizer. it makes people OD like fentanyl but narcan does nothing.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does that make it significantly cheaper, though? I thought fent was que cheap of itself.

If not, why would they cut it so more of their customer base would die?

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

it is cheaper. allegedly it also increases the effect time of the drug. fentanyl is very powerful but also very short-lasting by itself. in a hospital setting, it would always be used in a very small dose combined with other sedatives.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

There was a trend a few years back to mix heroin and cocaine. We'd get overdose victims and apply narcan. Instead of coming around peacefully they'd go from a nod to cocaine psychosis.

My friends who worked for EMS had a lot of stories about that.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Laced pot exists, but when it happens, its intentionaland costs a premium

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nobody actually laces pot. It would be incredibly fucking obvious since it's a green plant. You lace cocaine or other non-descript white powdery drugs with other white powders to "water down" the product and artificially make the bag weigh, and thus cost, more to rip off customers. But some white powders are toxic.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I separate the definitions of lacing and cutting. Lacing would be with another psychoactive substance whereas cutting would be with a non psychoactive one.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Pot gets sprayed with hairspray to weigh it down and resin can have plastic added to it to weigh it down.

[–] Steve@communick.news 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't happen with pot really.

It does happen with opioids like heroin. Why?
Because fentanyl is much more potent. You can smuggle a fraction of the volume for the same amount of sales. So it's easier to move.

The problem comes from the fact that since it's so potent, if your measurements are off by only a few micrograms, people die. Most garage laboratories have trouble with that level of precision.

[–] flabberjabber@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Never encountered fake pot until Covid.

For some reason the increase in demand meant that the streets became filled with synthetic cannabinoid sprayed weed, pesticide sprayed weed and other adulterated products.

It definitely happened before, but it happens much more frequently now than it ever had in the past.

It happens for one reason and one reason only: to make more money. Whether thats to increase the grow weigh, the intensity of the high, the ability to spray it with synthetics after washing it for the real THC or the cheapness of spraying the plants with pesticides for bugs: all of it is to make more money without caring about the consumer.

Legalise it, regulate it, health and safety it.

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I'm sure in Canada there are some issues with regulating it but can't say I've had more than 'this doesn't quite impact me the same as other bud I've purchased in % range of thc' and yeah I know other factors too.

Quite pleasant being able to get bud shipped to your door through postal system, just either have to sign or pick up the package the next day after 1pm if you weren't home. Plus comes express so usually only a couple business days. It's relatively safe (depending on format) but you still can get gummies and such to mitigate some health risks. Then you get the bonus of helping through regular taxes, which I know most people don't like but society has to run somehow. Prices were higher when first introduced then came down as more supply available, though that took a couple years really.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's definitely rare but it is not unheard of for disreputable dealers to spray cannabis or fake cannabis with synthetic cannabinoids to fake the quality or increase the strength.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This breaks my heart to read.

[–] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I doubt it's intentional. Dealers and other people in the middle of the chain cut drugs with things that lets them increase their supply. One could add active ingredients:

  1. Fentanyl is similar to heroin but much cheaper. Adding fentanyl can make a supply of heroin appear to be better quality.
  2. 25-NBOME is occasionally sold as LSD. It has somewhat similar effects.
  3. Benzocaines and other -caines could be added to cocaine. These -caines, including cocaine, all have a local numbing effect. Adding benzocaine can make the batch of cocaine feel like it's got more cocaine than it actually does.
  4. Meth and amphetamines are often added to MDMA, since amphetamines give a similar energy focus boost like MDMA does.

Oftentimes, the adulterant is inactive, and is added to the drug to make it bulkier.

None of those are meant by the drug dealer to harm the drug consumer. The main reason why drugs do kill so many people, especially opioids, is that they are of unknown potency. For example, if one always takes the se amount of heroin when they get high, they might OD if, for example, a specific batch had more fentanyl than usual. Fentanyl is especially especially bad because it is very very potent, making it really easy to OD on.

[–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 day ago

LD50 is like 1-2mg.

I saw a local advocate or social worker that went to the streets in Portland to get a first hand acct of when fent first hit the streets. Guy said that there was talk that a dealer had had 4 ODs on his batch and everyone went looking for it cause, you know, good stuff. That first wave killed about 60% of users that had less than a year of heavy use(tolerance, he called them new friends), but those that survived had built up their tolerance. So after it was gone everyone went back to the old regular heroin and it didnt quite hit. Users were pissed cause they were buying twice as much for nothing.

Second wave had less ODs because survivors had built up a tolerance, but there was still a lot. He said it was either less savy addicts that didnt take a test batch first before going up or impatient addicts that hadn't had a good fix and had just been keeping withdrawals away. He saw a guy he shot up with that was 36 hrs into withdrawals. Take a higher dose than normal, so he could actually get high. That he smiled, laid out and started snoring about 2 minutes later. Probably died soon after cause he stopped breathing.

He said all serious addicts can't go back to regular heroin and that some ppl,like him, take 2 light doses for withdrawals and to lower tolerance and take a normal dose to get high and the high isn't the same. That its short and causes a lot of nausea. He wished he could somehow lower his tolerance and go back to heroin, but dealers dont sell non fent heroin cause no one wants it.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Controlling people through fear.

Just like nobody's putting free drugs in Halloween candy, or passing them out at schools, or any of the other stories that are really just horrible business strategies.

Oh. Here's another fun fact, you can NOT get high, sick or killed by just touching fentanyl.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

just touching fentanyl

But you can watch a cop fake a seizure from being within 500 yards of it and lol at their dumb asses

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

You can by accidentally touching it, not washing your hands, and then ingesting it. It only takes 2 milligrams.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I read somewhere that there was an app developed by some organisation in a big city to track ODs and help addicts avoid known areas where drugs are adulterated. They had to shut it down when addicts would actually seek out the OD causing drugs using the app like yelp from the upsidedown.

Econ101 does not apply to addiction.

[–] baines@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

sure it does

the aberration is self correcting

short term fluctuations are expected, just not predicable

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 4 points 2 days ago

No, you might get a cut version, but almost never laced.

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[–] kandykarter@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Pot is basically the cheapest drug there is, nobody is lacing it with more expensive drugs.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As others have said, marijuana is almost never adulterated. At best, you could mix some CBD or non psychoactive hemp to stretch it, but it'd be less potent and weed buyers today often buy for potency. (Not me man, I'm old, gimme that weak dad grass any day!) And of course, everyone has a story about the kid that bought a pound of oregano and thought it was ditch-grass.

For other harder drugs, you do sometimes get adulteration. Fentanyl, being a very powerful opiate, is sometimes mixed in small amounts into other "white powder" drugs, like heroin or cocaine, sometimes along with cheap non-reactive filler like talc. This is to stretch supply and make more money for the dealer. Ideally, this wouldn't kill their users but:

  1. Different drugs act differently, so while it might be "safe" to do a larger heroin dose for a fun occasion, if you dont realize it's been cut with fentanyl then you can easily overdose by accident. And people already overdose on heroin, the line between a wild time and dead can be rather thin.
  2. Drug Dealers aren't graduate level chemists, often they haven't graduated anything, and dont realize that some powder they've used as a filler is toxic or becomes toxic in combination with other things or when heated, etc.
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

Also, if the street level dealer is cutting with fent after their supplier already cut with fent and whoever they got it from also cut with fent, you have no idea what you're getting.

  1. sometimes they just add too much by mistake. They don't want to kill their customers but they don't know enough to safely spike their product every time, partially because:

  2. different people react to the same drugs dfferently too. A fentanyl dose that won't harm Jack at all can be deadly for Jill, even if all the other variables like what it's mixed with and in whah ratio are the same.

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[–] remon@ani.social 6 points 2 days ago

Proper drug dealers don't do that.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Almost every real world case of weed being laced was from an end user doing it on purpose or it was a simple contamination error.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

This, had a coworker who bought garbage quality weed from a dealer who reused bags. There were trace amounts of similar quality coke at the bottom of the bag.

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