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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The deal is contingent on Hanwha winning the lucrative bid to build Canada’s next generation submarine fleet.

The Korean and German bids both look pretty strong to this dummy. I have no idea how this is going to shake out.

I read somewhere about how South Korea could really benefit from an expanded overseas manufacturing arrangement, which makes sense considering their geopolitical, uh, situation.

[–] CanadaPlus 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're pushing hard and rising up the arms dealer rankings really fast, for sure.

It's worth mentioning they're two very different boats, without even looking at the at all the perks.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I havent followed any of this in detail. I assume neither option is nuclear powered

Whats the 2026 take on nuclear subs given the cost of oil these days?

[–] CanadaPlus 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Generally military equipment ignores fuel economy - in wartime it's such a tiny expense. To what degree they try to manage it, it's to extend range. That's certainly the case for nuclear submarines, which can stay under until they run out of food, and go full steam the whole time.

But anyway, no, both diesel-electric. IIRC the government wants something soon and that existing sailors can easily learn. That's also why they're not considering building in Canada.

The Hanwha offering is bigger, meaning it's more livable and could last weeks, and it can launch ballistic missiles vertically. It's flexible, and could do a bit of the job of other submarines. The European sub is just very, very good at it's one job of ambushing surface craft (probably much better than the Hanwha boat).

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My totally uneducated gut feeling is that germans are pretty good at building submarines...

[–] CanadaPlus 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Sure, they never stopped.

South Koreans are good at building lots of things, too. The people actually making the decision won't have to guess, thankfully; they just go look at the specs.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

We tried electric windmills, and it worked pretty well, but they failed all the hide and seek testing protocols.

[–] CanadaPlus 3 points 2 days ago

Good I guess. You'd think anyone building armoured vehicles in Canada would want to use the local steel anyway.