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[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Big telecom/banks love their countless gotcha fees.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

100% agree, but I think it's worth mentioning that 2G is very insecure (you can sniff and spoof with a grand or two of hardware), so incentivizing people to get off of it is not that bad imo

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Aren’t loads of embedded devices still using the old school edge network? Like car remote systems, electric meters, weather stations, etc?

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago

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[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This will force many of those to upgrade their current technology (which also helps Roger/Fido because they offer the upgrading services) or pay the fee.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Creating tons of needless ewaste and forcing users to re-buy otherwise working devices.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. That's the point of this fee, to nudge people to upgrade those decades old systems that are forcing the carriers to maintain old (and much less spectrum efficient) equipment (with no parts support from the manufacturer any more).

They had to do similar to push the same stragglers off the old 1G (analog/TDMA) network 15 years ago.

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They have enough money to support those systems, they just want to push everyone to new, more expensive systems.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have enough money to support those systems

Even if they can't get spare parts or repaired modules or software updates from the manufacturer any more?

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah the corp with 75Billion profit last year doesn't have enough to fabricate parts or hire programmers, lol

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm surprised they still offer 2g at all .

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

They've shut down 3G in Australia, so I'm even more baffled by this still being a thing.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Classic Rogers, wait till you learn roaming charges.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How are these chucklefucks still with clients at this point? I've been on freedom for well over a decade. Which means I've saved thousands of dollars.

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They borrow Rogers lines and towers. I called to see if they can give me a better deal then Rogers, they can if I want slower internet speeds, and less data on my phone. I think the only thing they would allow me to do, is call my brother on the border without getting charged.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who cares its plenty fast. Pages load instantly. Most people have no idea how many GB or how much throughout they need.

I'm mostly on WiFi so whatever.

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I use mobile/home internet. I was talking about home internet speeds. I know how much internet download and upload I need.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, I still gave a regular internet connection at home

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh? Also, Freedom is a reseller, Rogers would get the money anyways in my area if I switched.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Freedom does also have their own network...

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Call them yourself, ask if they use their own line infrastructure, or do if they use another company's lines.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe you need to call them, it sounds like you're uninformed lol. Back before they were known as freedom, they used to only have service in major cities because that is where their networks existed. Then they started taking off when they started including roaming on other networks.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

Good, there is only so much radio spectrum to go around might as well push people off of 2G and open it up.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

I know a lot of posts in the thread are criticising Rogers for being greedy, and don't mistake me, they are, but this is common in enterprise space.

This fee is ment to spur the last hold outs onto the new network or pay for what is essentially long term support.

Because of course they would.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What I would like to do is get a hold of the 2g gear and make town-local wireless for rural towns. It would be dog slow, but you could keep people reasonable connected for pretty cheap.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if you got the hardware for free, the operating costs are far more than you might expect.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure they are. I understand the power requirements alone for 2g vs 5g tx/Rx are eons apart.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Power is one factor.

Spectrum licensing is also not cheap.

And you still need software support from the manufacturer to actually make that hardware function, and they don't support old hardware forever (another reason the carriers are shutting down the old network)