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This person friended me from an online game I played asking if I wanted to be paid to be a penpal. I'm familiar with a lot of phishing scams and other sorts of scams but I've never seen a scam like this one. What exactly is this person trying to get from me, are they hoping to infect my device with something sinister or are they trying to phish information from me without me knowing it? They seem to put a lotta emphasis on me VIEWING this photo they're gonna send me and it makes me think that whatever they're gonna send me must be infected with some sort of trojan. Can someone explain to me what's going on here?

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

They are trying to get you to deposit a counterfeit check. It most likely wouldn't clear your bank, but if it did, you end up on the hook for the entire amount of the check with no money, and they get the amount that you sent "back" to them.

[–] Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago

I'm just here to say nice username

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 day ago

I'm going to outline this so everyone knows how this works in detail. There's a number of comments talking about metadata, but this is remote check fraud.

The key dialogue is here:

"Okay the check will be written here then I'll take picture of the check front and back then send it to you and you preview it on your laptop or iPad then you log in your bank app and take the snapshot to the provided space and you get the money"

Phase 1

  1. Fraudster sends an image of a check through e-mail
  2. You use your computer to view the check
  3. You then use your phone's bank app to deposit the check
  4. Your bank is required by US Law to make up to $500 available immediately

Phase 2

  1. The fraudster makes an excuse of why they can't do it any more or mentions that they over paid
  2. They ask you to send money through an untracable manner (Bitcoin, gift cards, etc)
  3. They may say something like you keep some for your effort or just lean on your kindness
  4. Your bank realizes that this check is fake or been used already
  5. You bank withdraws that amount from your account

This isn't an unusual scam, but it's technically illegal for you to deposit a picture of a check. You need the original.

Best to block and report them.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Scam. Incredibly obvious scam, so much so that frankly I'm surprised you think you might be paranoid.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

It's because the other piece was still missing: how they actually get money from OP, which comes after the original "payment" goes through.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 194 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's called remote deposit cheque fraud. It's a fake cheque. If you cash it, it will eventually get flagged as a a fake, and the bank will take the money back, even if you've already spent it or sent it to the scammer. And if you never send money to the scammer, they get nothing, but it also costs them nothing to make the attempt, because you're the one depositing the cheque and wearing the risk.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What happened to checks needing to be cleared first by banks? Do they just accept them now and deal with it later?

I haven't used a check in... 30 years I think.

[–] doc@fedia.io 26 points 2 days ago

Most banks will, as a courtesy, deposit a certain amount immediately while the remainder waits to be cleared. My bank will pre-deposit $500 of any check and then the rest several days later. Or at least they used to. It's been like 10 years since I had to depsoit a check.

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Depending on the amount and the history of the customer cashing it you may get the funds right away. Probably not for a 1000$ but less then 200 or so. Eventually it will clear and you'll get boned if it was bad.

[–] thurstylark@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The way I understand it, scammers use the most incapable, podunk banks possible so it takes the most amount of time to fully clear a check, usually hoping that the mark will cash it in and send the scammer a portion of the bad check, so the mark is left with the bag. From the mark's bank's pov, the mark has spent more money than they were ever entitled to.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I find it so weird that parts of the world never moved away from the cheque system. I used my last one mid-90s or so.

SEPA bank transfers are cheap and real time.

On top that cheque system is so ripe for fraud.

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[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago

DON'T DO IT. Just say you did. Lie to them for as long as possible. If they ask for proof you can't give them, pretend to be dumb af and not understand their instructions.

If a clanker calls you, keep feeding them bogus instructions until they enter an inifite loop to waste their tokens. Kitboga has a YouTube video showing how to do it easily.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

100% a scam - I fell for it from a Fiverr account, scalpers will find any prior relationship and use it to get bitcoin.

Report and move on.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 29 points 1 day ago

If you're logged into your bank account and the image contains embedded code and you're vulnerable to the exploit, there's a good chance that they'll be attempting to transfer money out of your account.

If it sounds like a scam .. and this does .. it's generally cheap insurance to treat it like a scam.

Moreover, if it's unsolicited, as in, they came to you, the chances are significantly higher that it's a scam.

[–] Furbag@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago

I used to deal with these types of scams all the time on Craigslist. These guys aren't even pretending to be legit anymore it seems.

I'm genuinely surprised that any business still accepts cheques.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 81 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A stranger is sending you free money? That's a scam.

[–] Cock_Inspecting_Asexual@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeahh im aware, but the curiosity what what it is they were trynna do had me titillated 🥴 I wanted to see how it'd play out

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 49 points 2 days ago

Likely they send you a bad check, ask for a cut or say they over paid, check bounces and funds go away from your account, they keep there cut, you take the 100% of the loss.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As long as you understand that you absolutely are taking the risk of fraud being assosiated with your own personal bank account.

Like don't post in 2 days "GUYS!!! I WAS HACKED!!! THEY STOLE EVERYTHING!!!"

[–] Cock_Inspecting_Asexual@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nah I aint givin this fucker my bank account. I do wanna troll the shit out of em but idk how to go about it other than just wasting his time by yapping about random shit

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, ok.

I remember when I was 17, my mom would hand me the phone whenever telemarketers would call.

I'd waste their time as a hobby. Sometimes I'd say my mom was on vacation in Jamaca, eating lots of blue flavored snow cones. Other times I'd say she was in the shower.

Either way, I'd start a counter to see how long they'd stay on the phone with me. My record was 2 hours 26 minutes. And my mom actually ended it. She came up and asked who I was talking to. I held up the hand signal for telemarketer.

She was in one of her pissy moods, so she grabbed the phone out of my hand, and screamed into the phone "THIS IS HIS MOM! WE DON'T WANT ANY!!!" and hung up.

To this day, I still believe I could have hit the 5 hour mark if she had just let me.

My reasoning was if they're talking to me, they AREN'T talking to someone who could be scammed.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's the hand signal for telemarketer?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ok, don't do a thumbs up. But also don't do a thumbs down either. Do one kind of halfway between up and down, where it's kind of pointing to the side.

We innitially wanted something where your fingers make the shape of a T, but as it turns out, it is really really hard to move your fingers into the shape of a T. Try it. It's akward, and painful, and it kinda sorta can be done....but also we hate it, so we decided on the thumb to the side thing. Easy to do, easy to read once you see it. That was the important part.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You would have to be an idiot to entertain this. Block, move on, and ignore in the future. It's unlikely you're even talking to a real person.

This is the first stages of a very textbook fake check scam. They will provide a (unbacked) check, you can cash it and see the funds appear in your account. Something will happen, maybe they'll realize they overpaid you by a few hundred dollars and ask you to refund that amount. The original check funds will be pulled after a few days when the financial institutions realize they were fraudulent and you'll be out whatever amount of real funds you sent.

Now that you know this is a scam, even accepting the fake check is a felony.

[–] Cock_Inspecting_Asexual@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wasn't planning on accepting a check from some rando online. That much common sense I do have. I will admit I am a bit of an idiot for entertaining them because I deadass CANNOT help myself.

I lowkey-highkey just wanna fuck with em in some way or waste his time. I used to troll fake VRchat model artists with zip bombs, but I've never really encountered a check scam before, so I was curious about it, hence why I asked.

I already know it's a scam, but I was curious on the specifics of the scam. I like learnin about shit and was curious

[–] towerful@programming.dev 1 points 16 hours ago

Get them to send you the check.
Say you deposited it.
See what happens.

Offer steam gift cards as the payment for the inevitable "I sent too much" part of the scam. Steam is no longer selling physical gift cards.
So you can waste some time pretending to go to a shop, unable to find them, trying other shops etc.

Kitboga is a master at wasting scammers time if you want some YT vids to watch.

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[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes it’s a scam, they probably want you to buy something right? They’re going to try and send you a fake check, in which they will ask you to digitally cash it in so it doesn’t go through a teller. The check doesn’t actually get checked by anyone due a couple days so you would have effectively stolen money. Then once they convince you to buy something for yourself and/or for themselves they basically fuck off then the bank would be like hey that check wasn’t real, instead of reporting you/done this is the first time we’ll just charge your account for the check.

If your still adamant on them being real, take the check to a teller at the bank. Make sure the check is physical. Make sure the sender it matches their name and the bank is actually real (by the routing numbers not the logo on it)

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Wait, checks are still not automatically cryptographically verified in seconds? How is anyone still using this? (Ironically, checks never really caught on in my country, the Czech Republic)

[–] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

This would require the bank industry to invest in technology, and that would cost money. Banks are for making money, not spending it. Charge just enough to the consumers to cover whatever losses are brought about by the archaic system and you successfully pass on all losses to the account holders.

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[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

There are fewer red flags in Beijing on May Day.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, it's a scam. Doesn't really matter what's going on other than it's a scam.

Do they even play the game?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Yea I think even if you're unfamiliar with this particular scam, the pushiness for this particular method of payment is a big red flag.

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Props to you for being curious and inquisitive and having the knowledge it's a scam. Don't let others bring you off your digging (without endangering yourself).

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

scam. every photo you take with wny device has metadata. dont send them anything. block them immediately. dont even say bye.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

That's like me asking if this email is a scam

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 30 points 2 days ago

Whatever you do, don't send any money back if they say they sent too much.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're going to "overpay" you, then ask you to send them the money back (or sometimes but something for them). But eventually their check bounces, while you're out whatever money/items you sent them.

You also need to start being more careful, because the scammers sell and trade lists of people who have fallen victim, or almost fallen victim, to their scam. Because if you've (almost) fallen for one scam, you're more likely to fall for a second one.

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Definitely an SCP trying to disseminate a cognitohazard. I'd avoid at all costs.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe you, but I have no idea what any of that means.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

heres the Wikipedia page. That will give you the details. I highly recommend heading to the wiki and reading a few if you're at all a fan of creative fiction and sci-fi/horror.

If you're more of an audio type, I cannot recommend The Exploring Series enough. He's not only got the dry and clinical tone that the format lives on, but he has some well timed jokes and he also elaborates both on the entry and any entries referenced.

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[–] Shannaresh@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

The check will bounce/charge back at some point IIRC

[–] Elting@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago

might be after your account and routing numbers on the checks

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is the most common kind of check fraud scam.

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[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

So at this point you know what it is, you know how to avoid being scammed, and you are aware that the most optimal way to deal with these people is to just block them and move on.

With all these things known, you can waste their time by pretending to have trouble depositing the check, saying the deposit went through while doing nothing, saying it worked and then playing hard to get with their "overpayment return" (usually they play on good Samaritan/pay it forward kind of guilt, so just pretend to be an asshole), and fucking with them every step of the way.

Atomic Shrimp on YouTube has done a bunch of these, if you'd rather live vicariously rather than expose yourself.

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