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The news blogs have not been kind to Palworld in general. The Verge posts headlines like "Pokemon rip-off Palworld removes features due to lawsuit they deserve to lose"
"Doom clone features guns" this is how these titles should be read. Or for a more modern example, calling Terraria "2d Minecraft" (derogatorily).
Should be calling Minecraft 'very shitty FPS dwarf fortress without any dwarves'.
Minecraft and Terraria are more similar than Minecraft and Dwarf Fortress.
I know literally nothing about Palworld but from what I've seen of it, it does look like a rip of the Pokemon Legends games but with violence. Is that not so? Asking out of legitimate curiosity
I've played both games. The only similarity between the two is the monster collection aspect of it. It has more in common with Ark, with the real-time combat, directly fighting alongside your tamed monsters, and the base building.
Was Heretic a Doom knockoff? Does it matter? Palworld does enough differently and scratches an itch that GameFreak isn't interested in scratching. GameFreak should just make a better Pokemon game.
Yes, actually. Explicitly. Video game nerd history pedantry alert: John Romero himself pitched it as a Doom-like game but in a medieval fantasy setting, and id prevented Raven Software from implementing too many of the RPG mechanics in it that they originally wanted to, instructing them not to deviate from the Doom formula. John Carmack's instructions were, "Do it like Doom, and add the fantasy flavor."
id also hired Raven to make the game in the first place, though, so it's kind of hard to be a rip-off when you have the support and permission of the creators of the original thing.
Yes, I know the history and that's why I also asked if it mattered. None of those "Doom clones" threatened Doom or id and breed innovation in the FPS scene. Palworld doesn't actually threaten Pokemon and if we had more Pokemon-likes, we'd probably have better official Pokemon games.
It's closer to monster hunter, breath of the wild, and Ark than Pokemon. The only passing resemblance to pokemon is the fact the 'pals' are on the cartoony side (and a couple are just digimon rejects).
It's the media that dubed it pokemon with guns and slavery after the first trailer dropped way, way back when, and even then that was exclusively due to the cartoony design before any game play elements had been revealed.
Look, I'm generally not on the side of any corporation bludgeoning people with ip law. I think that copyrught law as it currently exists exclusively protects the interest of capital and works against the average artist.
That said, you're crazy if you deny that there are many pals that are nearly identical clones of Pokemon.
I like the idea of palworld and I want them to win this lawsuit, but to say that palworld is some glorious high effort piece of art is pretty disingenuous. It's a sloppy roughly slapped together game with mismatched assets and art styles because they made it as cheaply as possible. It's survival slop like so so many other cheap shitty games these days.
I want palworld to win this suit because I want more games like Pokemon, but let's be honest and stop riding this cheap shitty game's dick just for being the victims of a bad lawsuit.
They are victims, not heroes.
Edit, honestly, I have a hard time believing they didn't bring this suit upon themselves intentionally. When that first trailer dropped every single person they saw it was wondering how Nintendo wasn't already suing them. If this was all a stunt to intentionally defeat game freak in court by carefully designing their game to slip through the Japanese ip system then maybe they are kind of heroes. Still doesn't make the game good. Honestly, the fact that it's sticking it to Nintendo is the only thing I like about it. So like, I argue that they are ripping of Pokemon, but I aplaud them for that. I just don't like survival slop.
Pokemon has a cartoon version of nearly any type of animal and many other stuff to say it's a rip off is like refusing a comedy show because some of gags have been used by the simpsons
I didn't say it's a ripoff of Pokemon. I said it's survival slop and that some of the pals are more than somewhat similar to specific Pokemon.
I've played the game and was struck repeatedly with a moment of of hey, that's just like x Pokemon. Like... Really very a lot just like that Pokemon... There are definitely pals that are designed to evoke the imagery and memory of popular Pokemon. Again, I don't think that's a bad thing, but you'd have to turn your eyes off to fully deny that palworld was inspired directly by Pokemon designs.
I think that should be allowed. I just refuse to reject the reality in front of me. Pals are inspired directly by Pokemon and draw design inspiration from them. That doesn't make them bad. Palworld is bad for other reasons.
Oh hey, it's a nintendfan that doesn't realize weird game theory blogs making wild claims by literally changing both colour and shape of pals kinda doesn't hold up, even in Japanese Copyright court which is by far the strictest and least fair in the world.
oh hey look a internet dick. who makes false claims and gets his comments moderated and removed a ton.
No, it was determined in court that the similarities of the designs was due to being inspired by the same prior art that Pokemon was inspired by.
it was not. you look at anubus pal and then look at lucario and tell me that's not a AI generated rip of off lucario, or Robinquill and Decidueye. Foxparks and Vulpix. Jet ragon and Latios/Latias. Orserk and Garchomp. too many pals are way to similar to be "original" designs. the fucking creators of palworld are huge supporters of AI, so of course they would use AI to generate pals and it jsut took pokemon designs.
but no no "nInTeNdo Is BaD" mindeset infested the stooges that love 'pokemon with gunz', i mean palword.
So you (and Nintendo apparently) have no proof of plagiarism and switched to speculations. Noted.
This is especially silly since they share zero design themes in common. Did you get this list from some random 6 year old reddit post?
Yeah, I hear people use "Stardew Valley" clone or rip-off too. Which doesn't bother me either. Stardrew Valley is a ripoff of Harvest Moon.
I think Palworld is more base-building and stuff than the turn-based Pokemon games that are out there -- but it definitely looks more of a ripoff than the game itself leads on.
Pokemon is derivitave of Dragon Quest Monsters
Imagine a survival game (like enshroud or even ark) but there are these creatures that are not realistic.
It's only "pokemon" in the sense that you can catch these pals with spheres, but I'd love to see a pokemon game that allows you to build a base, explore dungeons, farm, craft stuff, carry weapons to fight alongside your pals IN REAL TIME and, in general, treats its players as if they weren't mentally challenged toddlers
No, it's not "pokemon with violence".