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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 23 points 5 days ago

If you kill a snake and decide to chew on the venom glands, would they be considered poisonous or venomous?

[-] psud@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

With the sucking venom out of a bite memes they always warned that you needed good mouth health as the venom getting into your blood through a cut or sore would be dangerous, suggesting that venom could be safely ingested

Our digestive system is pretty good at talking apart proteins

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[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well. I know that they're gonna consider you both stupid and dead.. but yeah.. The corner would have a tough time

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 66 points 6 days ago

That and it’s a sequel to a move made in 1988. It was always destined to be a soulless nostalgia cash grab.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Eh, it's alright for what it is. It's a sequel that's mostly enjoyable and entertaining. And feels like classic Burton through and through. Catherine O'Hara and Michael Keaton are also obviously having a lot of fun.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I was pleasantly surprised. I went and saw it with my mother since the original was one of her favorites to watch with me growing up. She was actually more critical of it than I was, which doesn't happen very often, but at the same time I think she had higher expectations than I did. (Mine were not very high)

[-] Thatuserguy@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Like everyone else said, doesn't beat the original, but it was fun for what it was. Certainly kept a lot of the same spirit, which is more than I can say for a lot of these soulless reboot/sequel cash grabs these days

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

Meh it was enjoyable enough. It's certainly not overtaking the original as the better, but it was a fine hour and a half our whatever.

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[-] Ravi@feddit.org 23 points 5 days ago

Just watch the german version, where both translates to "giftig". Who cares if it needs to bite you or if you need to bite it, if it contains poison/venom just stay away from it.

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago

lmao, not an english native speaker here. What would be, in english language, the difference between poisonous and venomous? Lifting aside the "pois" and the "ven".

[-] Melochar@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago

Poisonous: will make you sick if you eat it. Venomous: will make you sick if it bites or stings you.

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Wait. So what if you ate the snake… wouldn’t that mean at that point it could be poisonous? Checkmate.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If you consume venom and don't have any open sores, you should be fine in most cases.

Source

Poison, however, will probably still kill you if you inject it into your bloodstream. Then again, most things will kill you if you inject it into your bloodstream.

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[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not native English speaking neither but afaik:

poisonous: you die if you eat it

Venomous: you die if it bites you

[-] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
  • If it bites you and you die: it's venomous
  • If you bite it and you die: it's poisonous
[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 6 days ago

Bears are venomous and lava is poisonous. Got it

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

If we follow this logic, bears are both poisonous and venomous.

[-] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 2 points 4 days ago

In Portuguese we have the word "venenoso" for "poisonous" and "peçonhento" for "venomous" (i.e. something with a "peçonha", any toxin substance produced and injected on another animal). But we often use "peçonhento" e "venenoso" interchangeably (e.g. "cobra venenosa").

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 6 days ago

I don't speak Spanish, but just looking at the alternative options Google Translate provides when you only input a single word, it's possible that "tóxico" might be a clearer translation of "poisonous".

[-] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Tóxico is more or less analogous to toxic in English, it sounds normal to use with something like a chemical but weird with an animal

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[-] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 5 days ago

Snakes in Australia are probably venomous and poisonous.

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[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago

It's a common mistake, so isn't a character in a movie making it realistic? Wouldn't it be out of character for many characters to have perfect English?

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[-] norimee@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

As a non native English speaker, where does toxic fit into the poisonous/venevenomous question?

[-] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago

Typically used to describe chemicals, or your ex girlfriend

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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 5 days ago

If "poisonous" are parallelograms and "venomous" are trapezoids, "toxic" would be quadrilaterals in general. (Can't use square/rectangle analogy, because squares are a type of rectangle, and venom/poison is not a type of poison/venom.)

Aside from that, there aren't too many rules on "toxic".

Poison and venom will both cause serious acute injury with the possibility of immediate death. Both can be considered "toxic".

Just to be confusing, "poison" and "poisoning" can have substantially different connotations. For example, the heavy metal "lead" would not normally* be considered a "poison". Lead would generally be considered "toxic".

But, repeated exposure to lead to the point that it causes physical symptoms is referred to as "lead poisoning".

Same thing with mercury: it would be considered "toxic"; it wouldn't normally* be considered a poison. But repeated exposure to mercury would be considered "mercury poisoning".

(* If a third party were to deliberately introduce lead or mercury into the body of an individual, the substance would then be considered a "poison".)

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/364-poisons-and-toxins

Sounds like poisons are injested, and toxins are poisons that are produced within the body through reactions. And venom is just poison that's only harmful in the bloodstream.

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[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 5 days ago

There are poisonous snakes, but most are not. They become poisonous through their diet.

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[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago

I saw it last night: it's the worst wet fart of a movie I've seen in a long time

What is missing from the original?

[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago

Story cohesion, justifiable plot, relatable characters, believable dialogues, good montage (there are more frame changes than a fast and furious chase sequence) and in general there is nothing that make this one look like a Tim Burton movie.
But hey we now have *checks notes* Monica Bellucci, the worst actress the big screen has ever seen...

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[-] nek0d3r@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I literally thought the correction in my head while in the theater. It took some restraint to not mention anything to my partner lol

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[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

It's not a remake. It's a sequel with the same director and writing team as the first one.

It also has a few truly disturbing scenes.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

Yes and no. Soulless cash grabs are unwatchable. But things like The Fly, dawn of the dead, the mummy, Scarface...10/10

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Maybe she was eating poisonous snakes off camera. You don't know.

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