"YES IF YOU ARE IN A CRITICAL INDUSTRY YOU HAVE LESS OF A RIGHT TO STRIKE"
Entire thread on r/news is just the same sentiment of libs worried about their treats while the rest of America is already stuck in poverty and the world suffers already from American economic dominance.
edit for clarity.
“Noooo you can’t go on strike if it might affect 
and the flow of my treats made by exploited third world labor!”
Also notice that it’s not, critical workers are being underpaid and exploited to the point of striking, so let’s blame the owners for the impact to the economy.
That being said, I don’t like the framing of writers and actors being privileged. Those are unions where they have a very small handful of ultra-rich megastars, but the vast majority of them are struggling just to make a living off their craft.
I agree! They immediately think of actors, or directors, etc. Instead they fail to think of set designers, make-up artists, FX people, etc. There is something there to a liberal looking at the industry and seeing the richest as a general guide for how everyone else must be doing (maybe not as rich, etc)
On top of that, they also don't even question why bank managers, financial analysts and other useless fucking jobs make over 400k? But longshoremen wanting job security and pay increases are bad? Instead they mask it with "NOOOOO DON'T HINDER PROGRESS TO MAKE US ALL CONTRACTED WAGE-SERFS!!"
Absolutely garbage people in that thread.
I remember this LinkedIn post talking about the potential in automating C-suite functions and the comments were full of “ 
Ackshully there are very important intangibles that only a coked out MBA former frat boy can do that AI simply isn’t capable of ”
Also notice that it’s not, critical workers are being underpaid and exploited to the point of striking, so let’s blame the owners for the impact to the economy.
Are you expecting liberals to follow a chain of cause and effect with multiple steps?
Not unless it's how to vote.
They can't do that either. Ask a liberal who claims to be sympathetic to Palestinians and lives outside of a swing state why they're voting for Kamala. There's no chance they identify that providing affirmative support to a candidate who does not need it outside of swing states does nothing but give the candidate more room to ignore pressure from voters.
Oh no no, I didn't mean convincing people. I mean the steps for online registration in pain-staking detail while pasting that god-forbidden vote link. The one thing I've seen them organizing for is copy and pasting "Check your registration!" like they're doing a civic duty.
Honestly, I'm convinced for a good chunk of them it's just like a cultural thing. "The state says we vote at certain time of year and then go and cast vote for blue and red and that is our civic duty. Vote blue."
There’s definitely an element of “If we don’t perform the voting ritual the democracy gods will be angered” going on.
"Imagine if healthcare workers go on strike!"
Yeah? We've been striking on and off for like the last 3 years here in the UK having not striked for literally decades beforehand. Treat the workers better and they won't strike?
Oh and the public support it so you're onto a losing argument there already.
Damn commies wanting a decent wage
I saw some randos online saying that if an industry is too important for a strike it should be nationalized, so that was heartening.
Biden's vanguard made from the Bidentariat of the longshoremen.
In all serious, yeah; some of them really are like "why are we against this". Libs that have a shred of class consciousness. Let's hope they grow.
Thomas Frank is the goat in this. If there's any liberals you worry about them getting scratched, What's The Matter With Kansas or Listen Liberal are both borderline gateway theory.
if an industry is too important for a strike it should be nationalized
Liberals have no earthly idea what nationalization means or entails. I suspect they'd be perfectly happy with a PG&E or Fannie Mae relationship, wherein the enterprise is ostensibly managed by the state but so heavily privatized as to just be a continuous stream of bailouts for private investors.
"but them going on strike will cause problems," well, looks like the company should give in quickly.
If going on strike didn't cause problems it would just be taking unpaid leave
Comparing dockworkers to doctors striking for 600k a year is so asinine.
In a matter of perspective, if the longshoremen strike and hospitals with the 600k a year doctors can't perform surgeries without supplies; why aren't the longshoremen getting a living wage and security guarantees?
Mandatory public service should include every service industry job so these goobers stop talking like this and get some f****** perspective
In my experience, selfish assholes who work service jobs just use it as an excuse to shit on service workers harder because, “I’ve worked this job and it’s not that hard”.
Or "Ya it was tough but I paid my dues and now I have a 'real' job." Which is also terrible.
Surely, the porkies can’t pull off making the workers look like the bad guys for wanting more money in this economy
Reality:
The workers more than anybody should dictate what tech comes in. They have the bazinga filter these children on Reddit and the freaks in the board room are missing
"STOP HINDERING PROGRESS" the Redditoid says as your familiar mechanical controls on your crane are replaced with a giant touchscreen and chatgpt input filter.
My kneejerk reaction to the "no automation" was negative, but after reading the actual explanation why, I totally agreed.
Automation is better in theory, but in typical capitalist fashion it's mostly done in a hamfisted way to push out labor and ends up costing more in the long run through high initial and long term costs.
In order for tech to work right in blue collar work, it really needs to be designed and implemented almost entirely by the workers themselves.
It usually doesn't even 'push out' labor, it simply makes it have the appearance of being deskilled, so the worker has to learn to not only do the job they were doing before, but recognize when automation is fucking up and usually get paid less.
One day, in the socialist future, students will be reading about this stuff completely confused
"Teacher, why would they keep piling on essential duties to so few people and treat them so badly? Why did other workers not sympathize and feel solidarity?"
And it's gonna be weird and hard to explain, it's just not how it worked in our time. No it doesn't make sense, it was a very different time
Archive r/FluentInFinance and when they ask why just show it to them.
oh no, it will crash the global economy
it's called leverage, motherfucker. The ilwu shut down the west coast back around 9-11, life went on.
Imagine if your doctors earning 300k a year decide to strike to demand 600k a year and people are dying left and right as a result
close, they only do that if healthcare is threatened to be socialized
"Why is no one rallying around my inspirational message of 'you must work, regardless of conditions, so I can wipe my ass; until that glorious day when we can dispose of you utterly!'? It focus grouped really well in the boardroom..."
"Can convincingly demand when Cottonelle runs out at Walmart?"
If you don't want these things to happen just accede to their demands 
Do not question the Bazinga.
Wow, I knew the crackers would hit this point because its their treats on the line; but I didn't think it'd happen that fast. It still took like three days for the lib recalcitrance to jump out when the rail workers did it; this feels like it was overnight.
I think a lot of people don't get that a protest or strike is a demonstration of power in a negotiation. This is probably why liberals love the completely ineffectual go stand around in a park on a saturday afternoon permits in hand style of protest.
Imagine if your doctors earning 300k a year decide to strike to demand 600k a year and people are dying left and right as a result
Uh, yeah, that's basically what the people who get paid that much do. They say "I want more money", and then they get it because they are too important for employers to freeze out, or are valuable enough to get hired practically anywhere the second you let them go.
Turns out strikes are just that, but instead of one person, it's a bunch of people!
Wait, so you're telling me that when labor cooperates, they wield massively more power than if they act as an atomized individual?
I clicked on some of the main subreddits and the libs are insanely mad because "this might cause Kamala to lose the election". Of course, when people respond with "would you support this strike if it was happening after the election" and they libs still said no anyway lol.
Libs love nothing more than a chance to be strikebreakers
Yes, if you are in a critical industry you have less of a right to strike.
don't care + our problem is now your problem + physical ratio on the picket line 
realist rational logical pragmatic enlightened beings when the utilitarianism is 99% hitler vs 100% hitler
realist rational logical pragmatic enlightened beings when the utilitarianism is hundreds of workers vs one guy who doesn't want to pay them and maybe his buddies 
Libs: supporting every strike except the current one, much like they oppose all wars except the current ones
Can’t wait for the most pro-labor administration to break this strike as well for the sake of the global economy
So, since they think that the more critical you are to human survival the less rights you have, it follows that if you are a farm labourer and thus absolutely necessary for human survival you should have no rights and be forced to work. In which case to I have a group of 19th century traitors that they'll love!
The end result of this line of reasoning would be that slavery is best for all critical industries, because they are so important, therefore the people doing the work should have as few human rights as possible in order to keep The Economy flowing. I wonder how long before libs become openly pro-slavery?
Don't ask them about prison labor in fighting wild fires. You will find out they already are very much pro slavery.
If they’re that important, it seems like the bargaining period should be quick. If it gets bad enough, Big Brother will step in.
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