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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 57 points 1 hour ago

Yes. We are.

We are young with to have learned tech at an early age, but old enough that the tech wasn't user friendly when we were kids, so we needed to understand it better than people do in the smartphone generation.

Installing a new game on my PC in high school was a multi-hour, sometimes multi-day ordeal.

Plugging in a secondary hard drive involved putting jumpers on pins to keep the system from trying to boot off it.

Assigning ports on peripherals involved understanding how to count in binary so you could assign addresses on dip switches.

Installing a printer involved unholy alliances with formless beings.

Every 2-3 years, I still wake up wearing black robes in a strange room in Romania, blood on my hands and a lingering scent of cordite in the air. I'm fairly certain that's related to the Canon BJC driver issues I had upgrading my AST to Windows 95.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Random BSOD from changing... absolutely fucking nothing, then spending 2 days trying to recover, before saying fuck it and reinstalling windows, so you can play WC1 or D1....good old days.

Also printers can suck it. 20 years ago maintaining a fucking print server was bullshit.... I'd rather deal with BES for another 100 years.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

The hardest thing I remember having to do to install games was if they were DOS games and you have to manually assign all the hardware ports or whatever (I remember one for "IRQ?") for the game every time you ran it and if you fucked it up, it wouldn't have a picture or wouldn't have sound or they would be fucked up.

Not quite old enough to have actually had to type in the program after buying the game on a book. That would have been rad!

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

More likely from soundcard settings than printer settings. If you're channelling, its due to wrong number of channels selected.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 24 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It’s funny because we always thought that the next generation’s technical knowledge would utterly eclipse ours, but instead they only know how to edit a short video to seem to loop infinitely.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 29 minutes ago

I literally just watched a video of a dude telling a story about how when he was 13 in 2012, his Xbox 360 controller stopped working and he thought the whole console broke when he just had to replace the controller batteries. 🤣

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 87 points 5 hours ago

iOS is literally designed for toddlers to be able to use it. "iPad kids" aren't especially gifted, "iPad adults" are especially stupid.

But on the bright side, those same groups think they "know computers" because they can press large, brightly colored buttons - so they walk around with unearned confidence in their abilities and impatience/lack of appreciation for the people that actually have to fix things.

It's also why a large swatch of these same fucking idiot, drains on humanity loudly challenge the validity of voting tech infrastructure without any factual basis to their argument - they just "feel" like they get it.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 49 points 5 hours ago

My boss very confidently proclaimed that all serious IT professionals use a Mac. Said Linux "is for programmers and nerds"

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 1 points 12 minutes ago

As an IT professional, Macs are used by people that couldn't figure out Windows. Linux is for people that understand enough about Windows to live in constant fear of the next newsworthy workday.

[-] nzeayn@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago

people like your boss are awesome. managing their macs pays so stupid well, it feeds my linux home sever upgrade habit.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 14 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Linux is for programmers and nerds

...and your ideal system administrator is neither of those?

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 31 points 4 hours ago

So, programmers != IT professionals, huh...

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

IT proffesionals are more the folks that install and maintain large scale computer systems and network, like a company's IT department or MSP. Programming is closer to engineering. Software engineering.

[-] StuffYouFear@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

I'm in IT, from my experience, most people who use Macs either use it for media, because it is easy to use for the common man, or it is the most expensive option.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago

I've been in IT for over 20 years the most of the people who use Macs do so because there's supported business software written for it while still being Unix under the hood.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

Also most people who use Macs need help from their Linux using coworkers to get anything moderately difficult done on their systems.

[-] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

So what do they make of people like me who who use Linux on a Mac, with e.g. Colima or Rancher desktop - doing cloud/kubernetes/python development? I moved to a Mac a couple of years ago after 20 years of using Linux as my daily driver because frankly Bluetooth audio on Linux sucks and because I was tired of getting endless different video conference / screensharing solutions working at short notice for interviewing.

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[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 113 points 6 hours ago

Kids don't even understand file structures because modern OSs obfuscate that stuff.

[-] MashedTech@lemmy.world 65 points 5 hours ago

That's my biggest gripe to be honest with modern OSs. My files in my folders are organized like I organize my house. I live in and around that. I hate the idea of a "Downloads" and other stuff with "automatically in the cloud backup for this app". Give me a file to save you stupid app.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Android has taken away a lot of the manual usage shit when it comes to doing what you want of it on behalf of security protections. Well fuck you, if I want a program to have certain access to things I should be allowed to do it, whether you like it or not. My N20U still can't have a full and proper root.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't mind that they simplify it. It makes it easier for more users. Its the fact that even advanced users can't access it. Not a problem with a perfect app on a perfect operating system with perfect interoperability. None of those exist.

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[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 44 points 6 hours ago

I fix my parents’ computers. I fix the computers of the super old people in the neighborhood. I fix my kid’s computer. I fix my friends’ computers.

I don’t think it’s generational.

When your car breaks down, do you fix it? At what point do you take it to a mechanic?

At what point do you call an electrician or plumber? Who biopsies their own cysts?

It’s all the same shit. We live in a society of specialists because there’s simply too much potential knowledge for everyone to be able to do everything.

And if we start arguing about what things people “ought to be able to do themselves”, we turn into a bunch of old farts lamenting about the good old days.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago

"DIY" is a thing because many strive to understand enough of multiple relevant basic disciplines needed as an adult to be able to cover the first 15% or so of common jobs before they see their limitations and call the specialists.

I believe the expressed frustration here is around the fact that acquiring that first 15% type skill is no longer seen as a responsibility/point of pride for folks to gain as they grow.

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