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Lol. Lmao, even. .world cope (files.catbox.moe)

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(Context: lemmy.world/c/support post)

Title: Moderation not keeping up with influx of violent rhetoric following the assassination of the UHC CEO.

I am seeing a huge increase in posts and comments that incite violence, make threats of violence against specific people, or that celebrate real-world instances of violence and murder. There are hundreds of comments on this instance posted over the past day that brazenly violate rule #1 “We do not tolerate threats of and calls for violence in any form against any living creature”.

Many offending comments have been dealt with by mods, but some mods are seemingly allowing this violent rhetoric in their respective sub-communities. There are many active threads about the UHC CEO right now on lemmy.world that are filled with violent rule-breaking comments, and very little visible moderation.

Given that the mods are either unable or unwilling to enforce this most fundamental content rule, when can we expect the admins to get involved and start handing out bans to the users that have been celebrating murder and inciting more violence? It’s pretty out of control right now, and I’m betting that the admins could find themselves in hot water with the authorities if this continues to go unchecked.

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 139 points 2 weeks ago

There are hundreds of comments on this instance posted over the past day that brazenly violate rule #1 “We do not tolerate threats of and calls for violence in any form against any living creature”.

Ok, but how does "any living creature" apply to the UHC CEO?

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 99 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, .world must be an even better vegan instance than here, right? Right?

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[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 63 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly, he's dead ~~and always has been~~

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 48 points 2 weeks ago

Dead on the inside, Dead on the outside.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago

I'd like to think he found his true self. Care-Comrade

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 weeks ago

They clearly aren't even violating the rules.

Celebrating violence is not a threat or call to violence. Those are totally different things.

This is what civility does to your brain. 😞

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[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago

Not anymore

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

How long does it take for full cellular death to complete? There may be a few cells hanging on somewhere in that corpse

[-] finderscult@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fun fact, it doesn't. Not if you consider yourself right now as human. Most of your cells in your body have none of your DNA, and without them youd die a horrible, painful, ridiculously hideous death. Many of those nonhuman cells evolved to exclusively cohabitate human Bodies, but many still can live outside the human body for days or weeks. In this way it's likely some lineage of cells from any arbitrary dead person is still alive.

But if you mean human cells, less than 24 Hours without host function, assuming a neutral temperature and no remaining feeder or transport cells for any given cell type.

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[-] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 99 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Finger on the pulse of the people around me IRL (Coworkers, family, etc). Literally no one, not the never-trump republicans, not the "Supported Joe Biden BEFORE the primary" liberals, not one person thinks it was regrettable that this guy got shot, or is wringing their hands about it. This is substantially different from other similar incidents.

[-] NedIsakoff@hexbear.net 67 points 2 weeks ago

My mother-in-law scolded my wife for laughing about it in an instagram post. "A person is dead, how can you write something so hateful. You are condoning violence!".

I said to just reply with a screenshot of all of her posts about marginalized people, immigrants, or Palestinians lol. But also like why the fuck does she give a shit, American peasant mentality is wild.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago

'How dare you speak ill of mi'lord, he allows me a plot of land to live on and farm for him!'

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[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago

soviet-chad Yes

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[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

Closest I've heard to hand wringing IRL is "He deserved it, but....".

[-] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone is fedposting on this blessed day.

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[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

I'm certain I could find someone, but organically I have not heard any hand wringing yet either

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago

I saw some post by Todd but he seems like an idiot

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 84 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

MODS! MODS! THEY’RE BEING MEAN TO THE CEO ONLINE powercry-2

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 82 points 2 weeks ago

Lenin forgot to mention that adventurism is cool because it makes all the liberals show their ass with hand wringing.

Adventurists, I apologize, you were right.

Seriously though, hexbears, still don't start doing adventurism. ORGANIZE AND AGITATE. A mass movement is the only way things will change.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 54 points 2 weeks ago

Adventurism being cool is one of it's big downsides. If it wasn't rad as hell it wouldn't call to us so much

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago

It's seductively easy for individuals, and unfortunately easier than organizing. It's as much a trap as a tactic.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

~~Adventurist~~ violence + mass movement --> liberation army

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, and the organizing is hard which is why we should be doing it. Leave the easy mode stuff to the casuals. Anyone with proper opsec can become an adventurist, but chads form a disciplined movement.

Also, fused to a movement it isn't adventurist anymore really...

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[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 75 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no, not the authorities! We have to self censor to appease them even though they don’t know this stupid website even exists

[-] roux@hexbear.net 68 points 2 weeks ago

Open up, it's the low traffic website police. We heard that people said mean words about CEOs. cop

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 48 points 2 weeks ago

fedposting smuglord "the admins could find themselves in hot water with the authorities"

[-] BioWarfarePosadist@hexbear.net 41 points 2 weeks ago

Well, I'm sure there like a half dozen Air Force guys, and we probably have at least one FBI or CIA agent keeping tabs on the front page, at least

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What do you wanna bet this exact user has called Russian people orcs and celebrated drone footage of them dying sometime in the last 2 years?

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 60 points 2 weeks ago

Fair’s fair, they did call out people for using the orcs slur. Still condescending and patronizing towards the average Russian and quote a death toll that had got to be grossly overestimated.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 56 points 2 weeks ago

Ah OK, more of a liberal ideals guy than a dogs of the US empire guy

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, they have the civility fetish thing going on

[-] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 61 points 2 weeks ago

Dang it must suck to be one of these civility-obsessed losers while I'm over here partying the fuck down

pizza-dance fidel-layup party-rocking skeleton-motorcycle

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 55 points 2 weeks ago

This user is waaaaaaay too invested in this crusade, like beyond just civility lib. Elsewhere they are:

Posting pictures of the guy's wife and kids to people making jokes and telling them to look into the eyes of his family and then say it again
Defending this guy's reputation as 'not even a billionaire' by posting some apparently exact net worth for the guy (unsourced too of course)
They're a a Lemmy is probably doomed because it was built by unhinged tankies poster while also simultaneously being a we've got to save Lemmy from incivility poster.

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[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago

the admins could find themselves in hot water with the authorities

What a sniveling narc

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People who say this act like "hot water with the authorities" is like a weather condition that just happens, but in reality these unlikable snitch-ass losers are usually the reason the authorities find out about anything.

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[-] rhubarb@hexbear.net 51 points 2 weeks ago

Getting arrested for the crime of letting other people say things that are completely legal to say

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure all of these people were mocking the exploding pagers in Lebanon

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago

Me, smugly posting "fuck around and find out" in response to violence sanctioned by the powers of government and press.

Me, condescendingly using euphemisms like "collateral damage" when I find out innocent civilians were killed in that sanctioned violence.

Me, pragmatically reminding everyone of how violence begets violence and that both sides' violence is wrong when I get called out.

Me, serenely steering the conversation towards thoughts and prayers in an attempt to gain moral high ground.

Me, judging you for sticking to your points while I drift further and further into lofty abstraction and moralism.

Hell yeah its liberalism time.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure they'd be just as concerned about this rule if 'putler' got merked too, right??

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

That's the day they'll suddenly understand what social murder is, but only for him

[-] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago

the like vague threat of getting pigs involved truly is the cherry on this rancid libshit sundae what-the-hell

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[-] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago

violence and murder is only okay if it's systemic and on a massive scale smh, you dumb commies didn't know that?

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

mi'lord has died! how dare you rejoice???

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine having a struggle session about whether Health Care CEOs have a right to exist.

[-] OperationOgre@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

JB-shining-aggro Embrace John Brown posting

[-] Sphere@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

Can't believe someone could simultaneously have a cool username like todd_bonzalez and still make such an incredibly cringe post

[-] sourcery@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

Please stop celebrating this, what if it happens to more people like elon or the sacklers? You wouldn't be so happy then, would you?

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

nerd i-spil-my-jice nerd

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

i-spil-my-jice

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

Basically, what I've gotten from the civility wanking is that the moral standing of violence is entirely about whether or not it was legitimized by people in power. Unsurprisingly, there's no real moral underpinning to this, just another manifestation of class hierarchy.

Social murder is legitimized -- even normalized -- and fighting back is not.

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