Scott Moe is a hate-driven, Trump-loving knee-jerk fascist. His entire leadershipnhas beem defined by sucking up to Kenney, Smith, and Poilievre, trying to prove that he can play in the deep end of the fascist wading pool.
He can shut the fuck up.
this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2025
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"only threat" is "ourself".
Checks Mr. Moe's political affiliation: Conservative.
Ah, so projection? Again?
Do you think Donald Trump is a threat to Canadian sovereignty right now, premier?
No, there's.. the only threat that could ever be to Canadian sovereignty is ourselves.
Sure buddy, sure. I feel all better now.
I wish Moe, Smith and Fraud would just ride off into the sunset already.
February 27th is Ontario Election Day
Help everyone you know to register to vote. If they have mobility or transportation barriers, help them register for a mail-in ballot or transport them to the polls.
Last Ontario election had the lowest turnout since confederation. We cannot let Doug Ford win a 3rd majority in a row.
Also vote early. It's much less stressful and often convenient.
At least Ford is standing up to Trump, unlike Smith who tried to go to his inauguration.
Now he is, but he wasn't before.
Asked about prior support, Ford says he hoped Trump 'might be a little different' during 2nd term
Tigers don't change their stripes. He's just faking it 'til he makes it.
Ah well I'm not surprised lol
I mean, I agree with him. Trump isn't a threat to us, the bootlikers and american lovers trying to appease him is our largest threat.
Even the dumbest drunk driving murderer in the province is right once in a while....
Pinning it solely on the Liberals is pretty typical Scooter Moe bullshit, but he's right in that we should have been divesting our trade from the U.S a long time ago.
How about we bring back the wheat board? Dairy and Poultry products are the most secure industries because they are supply managed.
How about we nationalize the energy sector? Norway has a very secure energy industry because its profits go right to helping people rather than in the pockets of corporations.
Nah, I bet we'll get rid of the rest of supply management instead to appease the unappealable. Under PP, I'm fairly certain this will happen. Under Carney, not so certain but I think it might still be on the cards.
I dunno about that. Carney tends to lean left, working for the people vs for his own benefit.
For me it's all talk till I see it in action. Too many examples of people talking to the left, governing to the right. So while I know what you're saying and have heard him say good things, I'm skeptical until proven otherwise. With that said I'm voting for him for a leader and will vote ABC in my riding, which most likely means LPC since the NDP doesn't cross 10% here. βΊοΈ
That's fair. I just remember him when he led the BoC during the 2008-09 crash. He was often on tv talking about where we stood economically, and what other government orgs and the bank were doing to help us.
I admired his forthrightness and honesty then, and I still see it now.
I'm sorry, but Canada is one of the most food and energy secure countries in the world. We're a net exporter of both, and by massive margins. We basically export so much energy, that that one ticket is enough to make our massive trade deficit into a massive trade surplus, the very thing Trump complains about. It's like a third of our entire export by value to the US.
And we single-handedly fed the Soviets during the cold war as well, being the only country with enough surplus in food to feed them during their massive self-inflicted famines, and preventing them from going to war out of sheer desperation.
It's people like this that is destroying Canadian sovereignty, not trying to secure it. We need to be united more than ever as we shift gears, diversity our trade, and improve relations with other countries for the sake of our sovereignty, not attack each other in petty attempts at power grabs.
He's trying to dunk on Trudeau&co, but he's not wrong.
There were calls for Canada to reduce internal trade barriers as a reaction to NAFTA in the 90s. We didn't. Similarly, we haven't prioritized trade with other partners in any meaningful way. Even after the first Trump presidency.
Federal and provincial politicians could have done any of the things they're rushing towards now, but they didn't care.
I'm sure Moe takes his share of responsibility for that in the interview. π¬
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think none of these things ensure Canadian sovereignty. Anything outside of nuclear weapons, and likely a significantly bigger army, is not contributing meaningfully to sovereignty.
Actually I think the better we're doing economically, the more attractive annexation target we are. Imagine being in a super envious position to the poor bastard with the biggest army in the world looking in.
We've been so discombobulated over the past few months because we don't have a backup plan. It's easy to joke about us being the 51st state because we are so tightly integrated with the US already.
If we were less reliant on US trade, unilateral US tariffs would be less effective. We would have partners and allies elsewhere. If Germany was reliant on our steel, or India was reliant on our aluminum, we would hopefully be able to wring support out of them.
We're talking hypotheticals, so it's hard to know what would change if we'd made different choices in the past. But, generally, bullies pick on those they can victimize. We're easy to victimize because we don't have an economic plan B.
It doesnt matter if there is a backup plan... Canada is the only G7 nation with a free trade agreement with every other G7 nation (not sure about the uk post brexit). Between Harper and Tredeau Canada has been negotiating and signing deals with dozens of other countries. Possibly.. in preparation for this.
I agree with you that reducing internal barriers is important, but where i disagree is that you cant just magically move trade as a country. Its up to each individual business. And despite the americans being shitty they still have a the worlds largest economy and our natural trading partner as they are right there, thats just geography, it makes shipping easier.
Its like brexit, the UK wanted to negotiate their own trade deals. Cool. Europe is still their largest trading partner, all they managed to do was fuck themselves.. Oh and sign a trade deal with austrailia worth 0.3% of their GDP.
What makes more sense to me is increasing public investment and having people in Canada build things, the idea economy is so much more important than digging shit out of the ground, or renting out things that sit on top of it. Actively working to replace the technologies that we are reliant on the US for.