Ok copyight laws revert back, patents are to be ignored, status quo lost
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They desperately want to flood our protected markets and crash our economy and are pissed we aren't letting them - hence the threats. Literally every interaction we have had with the Donald government has been a goddamn threat. Let us crush your local production, let us have your resources, let us have the Arctic, etc etc
US is negotiating in bad faith. They don't care for a deal, they are working to ruin the relationship.
They are doing the same with Ukraine.
Some Art of the Deal there from the old Donny. I know it was a ghost writer who wrote the book and Trump has probably never read it but it is just interesting.
They need to learn to grow the fuck up and learn you can't have everything.
They could in the past now they want everything for nothing.
They still, to this day, do everything they can to make the people of Cuba suffer for their decision to stop Usamerican exploitation of their land/labour/resources, decades ago.
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Ford said the meeting was productive. What was the product of that meeting exactly? They said: "Fuck you, you owe us! And we said: "..." What happened to your backbone, Dougie?
They need a bunch of stuff from Canada, and they know it. Why they're playing dumb like that, we'll never know.
We really ought to stop exports of anything their military needs, for national security reasons. "National security" is one of Trump's favorite justifications, so I'm sure he'll understand.
That's how you definitely get invaded. Cover Canada in spikes before you do something like that.
If they invade Canada, they better not grant citizenship. 30 million New Democrats (75% of Canadians), many new senators, and a bunch of electoral collage votes. There would not be another Republican government for at least a generation. Starting in 2026 (mid-terms).
Just the Canadians already living in the US would have stopped Trump from winning last election.
All we need to do is remind them of the above and they will never, ever invade. It is perhaps our most powerful shield.
With the above in mind, stop sending them nickel immediately. Their military will do the negotiating for us.
The only have the power we give them. Please give them none.
Threat of 51st state is actually threat to make us another Guam, for this reason.
Exactly. We'd be a territory with no voting rights.
Why he has said they don't need anything from us. Is he going to go back on that?
Probably. He's an idiot, afterall.
Oh... so we are already forced to give US everything they want always. Glad to learn this. An alternative to that arrangement would be better relations with other colonies, and US enemies. How much would it cost to get North Korea to give us a nuclear umbrella? Compared to continuing our current colonial status, the latter could appear to be a good deal for US.
Canada could develop its own nuclear deterrent. In terms of know-how, industrial capacity and materials, all the pieces are there. It has never been necessary, however.
That might be changing.
To make it look like we are treating them unfairly. They are trying to make Canada look like the bad guy.
The only people who actually believe that "Canada is the bad guy" are the dumbest of the dumb Republican voters. Most people with any sense can see that Trump is the asshole here. Every other world leader, except for putin, publically acknowledges this.
I will also add that Lutnick is a massive piece of shit and paints trump as the saint of all saints. Canada shouldn't even bother having talks with any of their representatives if they're playing pigeon chess.
Yeah I was reading yesterday that the spat with Canada is hugely unpopular with American citizens. Even many GOP voters don't want it. I suspect that the US will keep tariffs up and continue being a pain in the ass, but they will shift their military threats elsewhere. The recent news of the US planning an invasion of Panama seems more possible and would easier for them to sell to the US people. It would still be economic suicide, though.
I think if the invade Panama, it increases the chance we get invaded. And if the do Greenland after Panama our likelihood of staying a sovereign nation plummets.
Crazy to think that voters were convinced that "sleepy joe", and whatever nickname they gave Kamla Harris, would have been worse than what's happening now.
Hopefully, Canadian leaders are wise enough to take the threats to Canada's sovereignty extremely seriously. It should be their number one priority. Just because the Dollar Menu aficionado in the White House says something that seems baffling on its surface doesn't mean we shouldn't be planning for the worst.
Well you are lucky if you live outside of Saskatchewan or Alberta.
Absolutely. It does seem as though the new Carney government is up to the task, but we do have an election coming so we shall see.
That said, the Cons are not polling particularly good right now and it would be easy for the Liberals to form coalition with the NDP, Greens, and/or Bloc. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that those parties would cooperate with the US-aligned Cons under PP.
Are we sure they're playing dumb, and aren't just actually dumb?
American here. We are dumb. And dangerous. He’s probably going to go after Panama and Mexico first, but make no mistake, he will come for Canada if he can.
Please take the opportunity to remind us why the Geneva Convention is such a long list.
That makes us look kinda shitty though, maybe instead y'all could pull a major redemption move and remind us why the second amendment is held so near and dear to y'all's hearts.
Unfortunately the people smart enough to realize what’s happening are also smart enough to realize how terrible things will get if we do truly kick off a civil war.
For now we’ve moved past the Soap and Ballot boxes, and now we’re watching the Jury box. Once that fails…
So basically they cant look after themselves, and believe its up to the rest of the world to feed them.
They're broke and want to expand to get new revenue streams. Taxes from the people, have access to the resources.
Nutlick says what now.
There seems to be no way out of this without serious threats..
It is serious. Don's an unhinged grifter, but he's also just a puppet president, imo. He's got orders to follow, but he's also a dangerous narcissist with a long leash. Musk is just fucked up these days. He's just trying to syphon as much money as he can, while losing billions at the same time. He had to know he was.tanking Tesla, but he got his $55 billion dollar paycheck from them.
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