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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Making "smart" devices that can't do routine mundane things without an active internet connection is completely fucking stupid.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I'm just boggled by the fact that "a toilet you flush with your phone" ever gof off the stoner couch. who the fuck wants to pull out a phone and press a button every time they take a piss.

Sensors if you move, yeah they're a thing that's given us all a surprise shifting our weight but a fucking app???

[–] thisNotMyName@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You have your phone in your hands anyway, admit it!

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 16 hours ago

I ain't tabbin' out of lemmy for a courtesy flush

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[–] forkradiofact@lemm.ee 47 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Has nobody else pointed out this is clearly not real?

[–] cass80@programming.dev 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah first thing I did was search the web for more information. Zero results...

I bet most of these other commenters also complain about boomers eating up fake news.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

I have become the red shirt from my favorite SMBC comic

However, my feelings regarding smart devices remain intact

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

I honestly could not tell. It's completely believable that something this stupid would exist. Like I didn't necessarily believe it was but I wasn't confident in either direction.

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[–] contrapunctus@lemmy.cafe 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.

Douglas Adams

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Maybe it needs a connection cause it takes a picture of your feces and sends it to an AI analysis service. If anomalies are detected, it tells you that you should take the stool sample to a laboratory for further study, then lets you flush. Poof, smart toilet. I could see people with too much money buying this.

Edit: Thought about it some more.. why stop at feces images? Why not also have a high resolution camera pointed at your anus taking crowning shots and analyzing those. Tell users if anythings wrong. The future is ~~bright~~ brown boys. The future is brown.

Edit2: You could even have motion based security.. alert if anyone broke in through your bathroom. Cameras in toilets people! What could go wrong?

Edit3: Hear me out. User controlled bidet mode + anus camera. Take out your phone and clean your ass in first person. Score points if you clean your whole ass and compete on an online scoreboard. Tech sure is amazing.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If anomalies are detected, it tells your insurance company so they can increase your rates or drop you before you actually need to go to the hospital and cost them any money.

ftfy

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Sorry, Euro defaultism.. my healthcare is affordable. You can always run Tolet Assistant on a raspberry pi at home and let your shit never leave the network.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

they can always ask chatgpt how to fix the problem

[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 224 points 3 days ago (22 children)
[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 128 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Don’t put the gun within reach of the printer, come on

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 52 points 3 days ago (25 children)

The more I hear from big tech companies the more I want to reject it. I don't even own a printer.

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Okay, I get the idea of smart AC for example - be elsewhere, turn it on remotely so that it's comfortable when you get home. Fine. But a toilet? You are physically present there, you can push a button to flush. Or are you telling me that you're shitting remotely now too?

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 248 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"Ok, so what you can see in the logs?"

"Sweetcorn."

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 55 points 4 days ago

Didn't ingest any, but it's still there somehow

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Why would you ever get a toilet that requires anything but the laws of physics to operate?

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I mean... Electronics and the Internet are also following the laws of physics. But I get what you mean, levers should be the only activation, and gravity should be the only requirement.

That being said, electronics in our devices do tend to reduce the amount of water and power that appliances use. Dumb devices are extremely inefficient, even though there are fewer points of failure.

It sucks that a 1950's fridge can still function just fine today, but it also is a bigger strain on the power grid, and a leak in the refrigerant would destroy the ozone.

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[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 203 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I can consider acceptable for the kettles to be connected to the internet if, and only if, they answer always with a 418 status code.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 57 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I'm perfectly fine with enabling a connection, just not requiring one.

For example - my lights are automated. They have a switch though. If they went offline (or my server does), I can press the entirely local switch and have light.

As a reminder though, 418 is supposed to be the response for requests of the teapot to brew coffee.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Day 3,801 of thanking God I was born a Luddite

Anyone who thought their toilet would be improved by having an internet connection deserves this

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I'm kind of far away fyom being a luddite, senior software developer, codes for fun, builds electronic stuff with wifi etc.

My toilet was built and installed before internet was invented and will not be changed for anything smart, neither is my toaster, dish washer, stove, locks, etc. etc. Ever. Over my dead body (if you want to be disinherited).

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[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 154 points 4 days ago (5 children)

If it doesn't work well without the Internet, it's a bad investment. Features that require the Internet degrading a bit is one thing, but if a toilet or toaster can't do its basic job offline, it was ewaste the second it rolled off the factory line.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Same goes for games BTW

Fuck online requirements

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[–] SGG@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I've put a few smart lights/switches/sensors/power points in at home. Definitely helps mum as we can have wireless switches for the lights, and motion sensors to turn the hallway lights on automatically as well.

For ALL of them, I make sure there is a manual control that will work as a backup regardless. Even if a smart light is "off" due to the motion sensor not detecting movement, all you need to do is turn the old regular light switch off then back on and the light will default to being back on.

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[–] Hupf@feddit.org 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (20 children)

My sister's new apartment's front door has a "smart lock", hooked up to Ring, naturally. No keyhole, you open it with your phone. It also runs on batteries.

Do I really need to say any more? We were baffled.

EDIT: Correction - there IS a keyhole but the actual tenants don't have access to it. Only the property management. Creepy. :|

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Time for her to learn lockpicking I'd say.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't think any of these people know what "smart" is supposed to mean cause these must be the dumbest ideas for any product I've heard so far.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 46 points 3 days ago

'Smart' means it can send your lifestyle data to the company, and make you dependent on their services.

You want to change your toilet provider? Best of luck holding your poo in for three days while the transfer is processed.

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[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 79 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The difference between an IT person and a tech enthusiast

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Terminally online, even for #2

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 9 points 3 days ago

Home assistant everything is a yaml away

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

And yet I hear dumbshits bragging all time about how alexa controls my (insert thing that definitely does not need automation here).

These sort of people never think beyond tomorrow and it shows.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 34 points 3 days ago (9 children)

If one day there is only smart toilets, I will go shit in the woods and start to live like an animal. Clearly humanity was a mistake and we should return to monke

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[–] groolthedemon@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The fact that everything is controlled through "The Cloud" and some godforsaken subscription service is so terribly sad, funny, and horrifying at the same time. We've literally found every conceivable way to gather and sell people's data while simultaneously milking them out of every last cent with the whole FOMO mentality driven through every piece of hardware and software now sold. It is just absolutely fucking preposterous. We're living in a virtual hellscape that doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon.

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