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fuck thousands for a coffin. or hundreds for an urn. can i legally be burried in butcher paper?

can i donate my body to science and skip burrial all together?

i want my final action to be a big middle finger to the funeral industry picking on people in their weakest moments.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 88 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Donate your body to science. My mother did that. She used to joke that they would put her body in a car trunk in the desert, or some other location, and see what time and decay did so they could measure the process. For all I know, that's literally where her body is right now. They also do other experiments. Then, after a few years, they return cremated remains to you.

Try to find an institution that will take your body. I've looked into it. There's a place in a neighboring state that will take mine, but if I die more than 100 miles from them, someone will need to arrange to transport the body to them. There's not much more to it for me.

Edit to alter link to a better site

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Word of warning though, check out the company before you do so. My mother in law was in the medical field and had a coworker that did this. The company ended up refusing the body because they had too many bodies. I've also heard of your body being used to test munitions, which is pretty much the opposite of what a lot of people would want.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 48 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Hey look, once my body is donated it's not my business what they do with it. I'm the same way that once I hand over spare change to the guy on the street, it's not my business what he does with it.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but if, like OP, the intent of donating your body is to ensure that one exploitative industry (the funeral industry) doesn't profit from your death, you probably also want to make sure that other industries (like the military industrial complex) that you also don't like aren't going to be able to benefit either.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 17 points 9 months ago

Weapons are good enough, fuck those guys. If I'm donating my body I want it to be for something useful, like improving medicine or surgery

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Sanity in the comments. Huh. Interesting find

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago

In a sense, that's true. But we're also talking about making arrangements while we're alive, knowing that our wishes now will translate into action later.

If I plant a tree so that my grandchildren might enjoy the shade, I'm still making a decision to do something based on what I believe the effects will be after I die.

So if we're making decisions on where or how to donate our bodies after our deaths, we'd still generally want to choose a worthy cause.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes, that is possible. The paperwork for the place I am looking into specifically asks if you object to that and a number of other possible uses to which they may put your remains.

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[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

i don't care what my corpse is used for if it helps people

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Also keep in mind if this is your wish you can't be an organ donor. Having a rotting corpse without any organs is a pretty unrealistic scenario and the data isn't as useful.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Among the other warnings here, if getting the cremains is important to you, be careful; my mother did this and we never got anything back. We almost didn't get anything of my father back, but my sister was tenacious.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand why people care. My dad is gone. I can't get help fixing my roof from his urn. Some people do talk to the remains of their loved ones, but they can't hold a conversation so I have never seen the point.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, I mostly agree with you, but some people do care. As such I just wanted to offer this warning.

However, I do have the cremains for my dogs and my dad on a small, out of the way shelf in my living room. In my more down moments, it's been comforting to think of them as "there" even though I know they're not. Also it can be a focal point when I'm putting effort into remembering them. Finally, I have a young kid; having a physical object to point at helps with explaining death to them in gentler terms.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In the Netherlands you don't even get the cremains back. I have no idea where most of my dead relatives are. In Germany you get them back, but you must bury them. Putting them on the mantlepiece is not an option.

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[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago

A big part of your question hinges upon where you call home. Some countries have strickt restrictions.

[–] nocturne@piefed.social 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My son is in his water bottle. Never bought an urn from the crematorium.

[–] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is a very sad two sentence story.

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[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

I'm sorry for your loss.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Direct cremation is the absolute chespest way to handle it. They'll try to sell you a fancy urn, and may even say it's illegal to use another type of container, but you could literally do what they did in The Big Lebowski and use a coffee can if you wanted. The guy who invented Pringles had his ashes put into a Pringles can. The ashes themselves come in a sealed plastic bag, anyway.

My mom's are just in a wooden box I made for her when I was in highschool woodshop.

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 6 points 9 months ago

Cremation is fucked fir the environment tho.

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[–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You can shop around for crematoriums near you. Most of them in the US pick up the body as part of their fee. $300-800 to cremate a body. They mail you the ashes in a plastic bag. Some will offer urns, but that's an extra charge you can skip. Most states don't consider burying ashes the same as burying a body. Different laws. You can prepay, and have a card in your wallet with the company's info on it in case someone stumbles upon your body.

My wife and I have spoken about what we want done. My plan for her is to cremate her, then go to a local nursery and find a nice hearty, long living, low-maintenance flowering tree she would have liked and plant her and the tree in my back yard.

[–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

Please note the larger/heavier you are the more it can cost. Also most medical programs don't like to take overweight bodies for dissection programs as they are harder to keep/work with.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The cheapest method is to abandon the body. People die without family all the time and the State has a method to dispose of unclaimed corpses. Cost $0

[–] derekabutton@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't stick it to the industry though. Still gets them paid. It's not about saving the money from what I can tell

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Abandon the body on the doorstep of the funeral company you're angriest at. If there are several, first disassemble the body into as many pieces as there are doorsteps.

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

If you really want to stick it to the funeral industry, and you're including crematoriums and all other aspects in that, I think the only option is burial at sea.

Put it in your will that you want your friends and family to go on a deep-sea fishing cruise. Specify they must bring you along, and once they reach the approved and legal dumping location and have you naked and weighted so you sink, they can raise their glasses, make a toast, and pitch you over the side.

Meant to include this link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_at_sea

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Out of all the options, this one seems like the best to fulfill OPs intentions, although if you dont know someone with a boat, it does not make it cheaper.

Plus. funerals are for the living, not the dead. Some families may want more than GPS coordinates as a headstone (or they will need to put one elsewhere).

I personally would be fine with this disposal method for myself, assuming it was not too inconvienent or costly for others.

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[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Where I live the cheapest is to donate your body to science but it depends entirely on if the local university needs bodies or has storage capacity at the moment of death.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 13 points 9 months ago

it depends entirely on if the local university needs bodies or has storage capacity at the moment of death.

The problem is the solution: just die when there's capacity 👍

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[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Donation to a hydraulic press and/or hispeed cam YouTube channel

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 7 points 9 months ago

Vot de fuk!?!?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

WILL IT BLEND!?

[–] weariedfae@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

2 things that piss off the funeral industry

  1. Aquamation/water cremation/alkaline hydrolysis
  2. Human composting

Both are legal in my state. You should join the fight if they aren't legal where you are.

Both are cheaper than burial. With aquamation you get back a bag of cremains just like with cremation. The only difference is instead of fire they boil you in an alkaline solution.

With composting it turns people into literal soil. You can take that back or donate it to a charity that is repairing a forest.

I second the Lemmy user who suggested Caitlyn Doughty and the Order of the Good Death.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Left in the woods for dog walkers to find.

[–] drool@lemmy.catsp.it 16 points 9 months ago

Or dropped in a peat bog dressed in medieval knights armor clutching a modded gameboy color.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Donate your body for medical students to dissect

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is harder to do than you might think. First of all you have to have it all arranged beforehand. You can't do it last second. The bigger problem is a lot of places don't have the facilities to come get a body from random places. On top of that they don't want every body. Most places are looking for bodies that exhibit certain criteria. Certain diseases or certain disorders or anything that makes the medical useful for study.

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[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Seconded. Many schools have programs that will help with funeral costs if you donate.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I want my body dumped on the front steps of my least favorite living politician.

When they return my body to my next of kin they will dump it back on the politicians' doorstep

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree with this sentiment. It's insane to me that people need to cough up thousands of dollars to see their loved one off. It's so wrong, although I do accept that funeral providers can't simply give away their services for free. I would support a taxation that had a provision for funerary needs for all citizens. Universal death care. I mean, we're all gonna die. It's not like you can say "oh boo hoo I'm paying all this tax just for some other cunt to die on my dime??" because your day will come soon enough and you don't want your family having to blow their savings on putting you in a hole.

I wanna be harvested for organs like a Chinese dissident, and whatever is left can be mulched and used to grow trees or something.

But if we're talking "cheapest", in the UK and Ireland there's a pauper's grave thing where the state will put you in a very basic grave and with a very basic marker. Not sure if you need to be poor to qualify, or if they'll just do it when asked.

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[–] unknown@piefed.social 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you have access to a woodchipper?

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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Regardless of the final resting place after the funeral - DON'T EMBALM. They'll pressure your family into embalming to 'ensure the dead look their best on the day of the funeral', but refrigeration does the exact same thing. You might think it's more 'dignified', but just do a quick google at what the process entails. It's ALL smoke and mirrors, and I'd rather have people at my funeral actually understand what my body is doing at that point - not the image of what a 'body at rest' looks like from Hollywood.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

My family has some experience with this

My mom's cousin was a wonderful person, her husband, however, was an enormous piece of shit in just about every way you could imagine.

She got sick and died, he never had a funeral for her.

Then he up and died maybe a year or so later.

My mom was still listed as the executrix of their wills, so it fell on her to decide what to do with him.

And she decided on nothing. Let the coroner haul his body away and never claimed it.

After a while they cremate the remains, they hold onto them for a while to see if any other next of kin wants to claim them, then after a while they bury or scatter them somewhere if no one does.

I'm sure the exact specifics of how that all works varies a bit from place to place, but in general that's gonna be an option. They can't exactly force you to pay for a funeral you don't want, and the local government has some plan on dealing with bodies no one wants to pony up for a funeral for (otherwise there'd be a lot of corpses of homeless people and such piling up in a freezer somewhere)

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Water cremation can be pretty cheap IF it's legal where you are

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cremation

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[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My body is going to a medical school, to be used for student dissection. Once they are finished with it, it will be cremated. My relatives can have the ashes if they want, otherwise it will be disposed of. My name will go up on a plaque in a special memorial garden. It was pretty easy to organise, just a matter of signing consent forms with a witness. Family are ok with it.

There's a chance my body will be rejected - infectious, too mangled, whatever - and in that case it's bounced back to family to deal with. I favour forest burial wrapped in an old bedsheet.

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[–] Flagg76@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I think the cheapest way here (the Netherlands) is around €750-900 and you are burned in a (fairly strong) paper bag or cardboard coffin I think.

But to be fair I don't care, i'm dead anyway, I don't have insurance for it, and if there is anyone left around me by then they can do whatever they want or not do anything. I don't have kids so they can't stick the bill to anyone.

[–] macncheese@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't know the cost but I kind of want to be composted. That's a thing.

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[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

In Illinois you can get buried on your own property, I told my kids to claim my skull for the mantle and compost the rest.

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