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Somebody I'm sure has already said this, but the Turing test assumed AIs would need to prove their intelligence by appearing human in their speech, but now the problem is the opposite, that humans will have to somehow prove that they are not LLMs when they type anything on the internet.

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[–] ScrollerBall@lemmy.world 81 points 2 months ago (10 children)

You're in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise. It's crawling toward you. You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?

[–] mech@feddit.org 32 points 2 months ago

I can’t assist with that. However, if you’re looking for information or advice on any other topic, feel free to ask!

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I assume this some kind of philosophical metaphor but as someone who isn’t into random acts of animal cruelty i have to ask for the answer.

Why not help?

[–] pmk 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a quote from the movie Blade Runner. It's meant to produce involuntary emotional responses in humans, to tell them apart from robots.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like every time a new thing is made up to fool robots, like looking at their pupils after this story, it's just a matter of a new algorithm in the latest software update that makes them react the way they're supposed to.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but you tell different types of stories. The robot knows it’s supposed to respond emotionally, but doesn’t know in what direction.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If I'm not helping, I imagine there must be some unmentioned factor, such as someone pointing a gun at me and telling me to do that otherwise bad things would happen to me. Or I was slipped some drug that forced me to be a sadist. Without any other factor, I don't imagine myself doing that at all in the first place.

Edit: Also, the tortoise lies on its back, not lays

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

100% robot.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

A land turtle.

Or a shield frog depending on your language.

[–] ChrisMcMillan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shield toad rather. Frosch vs. Kröte

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, I thought a toad and frog were synonymous in English

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

They’re generally treated as different animals, but toads are actually a subset of frogs. All toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

MRAP lizard

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

I've never seen a turtle, but I understand what you mean.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

It shocks me how many people haven't seen the movie

[–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did you buy a present for the person you love? Within cells interlinked.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Cells. Cells within cells. Within cells. Interlinked.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Well that was a risky click, honestly, I expected something much more explicit, more like the wall of Mortys or something.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 5 points 2 months ago

Easy - childhood trauma from watching a spider get devoured by its kids. I'm no skinjob =D

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

... because I am examining the underside of the tortoise, to try and make out any significant details... because I am utterly befuddled as to how a tortoise came to be in the middle of a vast desert... and because I want to know where the hell I am.

Presumably, I am in the American Southwest, but if I can possibly specify the species of tortoise, I may be able to discern whether I am in the Mojave, Sonora, or Colorado desert.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Seems complicated when modern technology can just use a checkbox to know of you are a robot or not. It shows the book was written in the seventies.

[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Current multimodal models can pass those with ease iirc

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

The tortoise was Hamas.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Because I'm so frigging hot, I'm so frigging thirsty, I'm so hungry, that I think I'm hallucinating the turtle. I've been trudging through a desert way and now a turtle pops up in the desert out of nowhere. Is the turtle even real, can I not distinguish reality anymore ... would eating it help quench my thirst and anger? Is it wrong to feel no emotion?

I don't think the test itself is designed to measure emotional response so much as the emotional nuance and the 35 ms latency delay glitch in the Nexus-5 models when dealing with it.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some captchas use AI generated images which have been categorized using AI to have me verify I’m human. What are we doing here, guys?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Giving feedback to AI image generators?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Literally yes, captchas trained older image recognition models.

Its called crowd sourcing.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

[x] I am a meat popsicle.

[–] Pirtatogna@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"We're charging our battery. And now we're full of energy."

We are the robots, we are the robots.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

WHAT A NICE UNICODE CHARSCTER YOU USED!

[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Can you imagine when it's normal for robots to have significant spending power, and become a target for advertisers? They'll need another robot to go "well this ad is targeted at robots so I need to make sure to not show it to any of those pesky humans"

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Turing test is most specifically highlighted in movies like Blade Runner or Ex Machina where it's a noire with a lone robot in a room being tested. In reality the future is more like Westworld where there are so many robots that can pass a basic Turing test that people are constantly engaged in more intense Turing tests at all times.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

What a really interesting insight. Here are some more topics that you might find interesting:

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

English isn't my first language, so I get grammatical errors. Now, when I type in my own language, I still get grammatical errors because I've been away for so long from my home country. That should assuage any accusations that I'm a bot.

However, someone did mention that I sounded like an anime character before. I think it's because I made an analysis that sounded too academic, like being dispassionate and analytical. I spent too much time in academia for my own good before. Well, that is better than sounding like middle managers, which people pointed out that AI sounds awfully like one.

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

The T in CAPTCHA stands for Turing test!

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Negative, I am a meat puppet.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago

I think my first post here someone asked me to tell them about baking lasagnas, maybe because of the way I type. Is it also sort of an insult to imply someone is a bot?

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 months ago

I like pretending to be a bot for the extra charm: beep boop.