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[–] lime@feddit.nu 83 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

interesting how the DDR is visible

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Damn, that’s a very close visual match with the former border, not just a blob. I would have expected it to bleed over more into adjacent areas or shrink in others.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

That could easily be the result of poor geolocation of residents (we know you're in the country but we can't narrow this down to a zip code).

Also, not clear at all how many of these accounts are bots. A country saturated with the equivalent of online phone banks could easily tip the scales one way or another simply based on how they invent/associate accounts.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

The former DDR is actually shockingly visible in a lot of maps of Germany. Electoral voting preferences (especially looking at AfD, die Grunen, and die Linke), various economic indicators, average size of farms, vaccine rates (data I'm seeing is from 2009, may or may not still be true today. This is actually one of the few indicators where the east wins), religion (particularly non-Christian).

This article shows a bunch of factors.

As does this video.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Also interesting how it is higher than in the western German part, despite the lower relative female population in the eastern part.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

To my knowledge (as someone from former West Germany), East Germany was ahead with incorporating women into the job market. Presumably, that is still the case. So, it could be that the friendships came to be from working together as colleagues...

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

That may just be the cause then? The difference in relative population? Since we don't know from the graphic what the numerical foundation is, it might be sometime that skews toward the "more common" side when there's just less women in an area.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago

Its visable on a lot of maps. Really interesting

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This phenomenon is called a phantom border, and Germany is not the only example (but one that is really striking on lots of maps). Poland is another example, as are the Southern US.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

You can even get it within a single city. Sydney's "Red Rooster line" is a well-known example here in Aus.

[–] marius@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's visible on basically every map. It's crazy

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 72 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

This map was brought to you by fuck Oceania

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 26 points 3 weeks ago

I mean !mapswithoutnz@lemmy.nz is a thing, but world maps without the entity of Oceania, that's new.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Those poor Austrians can't take a break

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The entire Pacific rim you mean.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The Atlantic is mostly missing, too (Brazil is directly south of Liberia). It's clearly a map made by Indian Ocean supremacists.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck Alaska too, mosquitoes the size of hornets

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

Collective punishment this time!

[–] Damage@feddit.it 67 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, the very reliable scale between known extremes "Not Common" and "Very Common"

[–] teft@piefed.social 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This map makes me uncomfortable. It looks like Neo-Pangaea is coming together.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Now, I realize what I find especially strange about this map: The Atlantic ocean is slightly narrow. Greenland is missing as well.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

At least NZ doesn't have to be alone in being left out, Japan, Australia, both Koreas, a good chunk of China, as well as Alaska have joined them in being ignored on this map

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you sure your problem isn't just because the map is muted?

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was making fun of this bit down in the bottom right corner of the picture

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, OK. I was blind.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

This time they took “no data” seriously.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 14 points 3 weeks ago

Given that Scandinavia is lower than elsewhere in Europe, I’m wondering if that’s an artefact of them looking at absolute numbers rather than opposite-/same-sex friendship ratios, and Scandinavians being the stereotypical depressive introverts

[–] manxu@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

Is this pure Facebook friendship or is this controlled for family ties?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What is going on, culturally, in the blue countries?

I have west African friends. They are horny bastards.

[–] traceur201@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

seems maybe degree of religion affecting policy?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Largely secular France and England have fewer intersex Facebook relationships than heavily Catholic Mexico and Brazil, because Catholics are encouraging it?

[–] goldenbug@fedia.io 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's most likely that friendships are built in bigger groups, and that's most likely containing people of all genders.

You befriend one person and that person takes you to a wider social group fast.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, my guess is that this an an artifact of cultures which are more traditional in that intergenerational friendships are more common.

Eg, in England, you friend your friends on facebook, then begrudgingly accept your mom's facebook request.

I Mexico, you accept friend requests from your mom's friend, Gloria, your dad's coworker Edgardo, and of course, your entire extended family tree. In these more religiously/sexually conservative countries, the actual people people spend their time with and relate to are probably more gender-matched than in more secular, liberal nations. But this effect is washed out by the sheer number of loose connections that any given person has.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Secular England is more misogynistic than catholic Mexico idk about France

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Very hard to be more misogynistic than France.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 4 points 3 weeks ago

Probably more sexual repression results in hornier friend requests.

[–] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just saying gay people would skew this result

Edit: I should say: the freedom of gays to live their lifestyle, which means gays can create communities and build their friendships that way.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Me, an East German, pointing at West Germany:

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s incredible in how many ways the division still shows up culturally 30 years later. Was there something in the GDR that fostered intersexual friendships?

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't know, but my best guess is widely available child care even for very young children and full-time employment for both men and women being the norm. Much easier to be friends with the other sex if they're not stuck at home with the kids.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not sure about the DDR but I know the Soviets had a slightly higher level of COED sports and whatnot. Also I think the Soviet scouts equivalent was also COED, if that bled into the DDR it's possible that wouldve had knock on effects up to now.

Also I'm using DDR because GDR sounds weird to me and I grew up around folks who used the German name for some fucken reason.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

a shitty economy and living conditions that forced both sexes to work to survive. also a lack of income inequality.

there is kind of an inverse, in inequal societies there tends to be a greater separation of the sexes.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder if the study and data controlled for people's parents being on Facebook.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

I only joined FB after a girl told me all my friends (M and F) were there lol.

[–] jayambi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

please consider choosing colorblind friendly colours :) the colorblind community says thank you.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's just the multipolar world kicking in!

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 0 points 3 weeks ago

is that the inverse of the Muslim belt or is it an unrelated coincidence?