So spotify has stolen their music. We have the technology to do anything we want, but someone needs to pay for it. Billionaires are holding us back. Billionaires are choosing not to end hunger or poverty. Remember that: rich people are choosing not to end hunger, homeless, or poverty. In fact, the rich are making it worse.
this post was submitted on 09 Dec 2025
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In the billionaires' defense; slaves don't want to do slavery anymore so they need to thin the herd /s
So gross. I'm not going back to Spotify.
I ditched spotify long time ago. Primarily on bandcamp now. Feels nice being able to stream music without a subscription but still using a platform where the bands/artists get paid fair.
But given the AI imitations that are still invading Release Radar and Discover Weekly playlists, which the company prominently recommends to its users
This is the turbo-shitty part of the whole thing.
Facebook do this as well; they act like they've got too many users to police everything that gets uploaded, and you could almost believe them on that, but they sure as fuck have the resources to be able to police what they're choosing to boost.
They're choosing not to do that, because The Algorithm is highly tuned around "how many dollars can we make next month" and they'd rather use that as their metric.
Recently read Spotify is running ads for the USA gestapo.
Fully unsubbed/deleted same day. Hell to the no.
Did you know that in the US you can copy spotify AI knockoff and sell them ? As it is not human produced, they are not protected by IP laws 🤭
Problem is that because they are not human produced they are worthless.
Spotify is an advertising platform, first and foremost. They don't give a fuck about music or artists.
Or their customers 😅
I used Spotify super early and it's crazy how anti consumer and musicians they are, or became. Every now and then they smuggled in some ads and every time it was like: omg what a weird glitch. Podcasts, you would still hear their stupid ads. Oh well, then they suddenly injected ads into podcasts, wait, why do i pay for ads now? Seriously they deserve to go under.
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Kind Gizzard can still drop albums faster than AI.
Have they beaten Buckethead yet?
In 2011, Buckethead began releasing albums in the "Pike" series, mini-albums usually around 30 minutes in length, each with a sequential number similar to a comic book. As of October 2024, Buckethead has released 662 Pike albums, including almost 300 live recordings.
These seem to be him jamming straight onto the record.
Goodness me, not close! King Gizzard are certainly prolific but not on that scale!
Well, at least they can aspire to beat Muslimgauze, who released ninety albums on thirty-two different labels in seventeen years — mostly in the last eight or so — and died at the age of thirty-seven, leaving unreleased material for ninety more records. Alas, the music is rather samey.
Their live shows are basically giant jam sessions with their songs mixed in.
That is illegal in germany. So i wonder how that now works
If anything, Germany is one country where this would actually be legal...
Wenn das Original bereits veröffentlicht wurde und bei einer Verwertungsgesellschaft wie der GEMA registriert ist, bedarf es keiner Erlaubnis des Urhebers, denn diese verwaltet die Nutzungsrechte der registrierten Künstler. Grundsätzlich ist die GEMA allerdings verpflichtet, jedem, der einen urheberrechtlich geschützten Song nutzen will, diese Rechte einzuräumen.
Gem. § 11 UrhWahrnG unterliegt die GEMA einem Kontrahierungszwang und dies in doppelter Hinsicht: Auf der einen Seite ist die GEMA ihren Mitgliedern verpflichtet, die ihr übertragenen Rechte wahrzunehmen, auf der anderen Seite ist darüber hinaus in der Pflicht, dem Musiknutzer diese Rechte auf Nachfrage gegen Entgelt einzuräumen. Damit ist das das Covern von verschiedenen Musiktiteln größtenteils erlaubt, auch wenn es einigen Künstlern sicherlich nicht gefallen wird.
https://www.juraforum.de/news/ist-das-covern-von-musik-erlaubt_247126
No. The GEMA lawsuit in November prohibited training ai on music, or use AI to create or distribute music (atleast from how i understood it)
Big if true. All those years of shit because of GEMA and now this. Guess a broken clock and so on...
I mean the broken clock is still wrong in this case. Everyone should be able to pirate anything, the issue so far is that only companies get a free pass while individuals get sued into bankruptcy.
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Spotify hates musicians. Bandcamp, Tidal if you need Spotify like service.
I still use Pandora. I know they still lowball artist payments (not as bad as Spotify though) but I've never been presented with AI music on there as of yet.
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I know it doesn't matter much, but it pleases me that Spotify isn't getting my money.
I literally got recommended this AI band as well. Normally I can search: "X band AI" and I get results whether or not they are real.
All I had were 50 pages about the original band leaving Spotify.
I blocked this suspicious sounding band in-case it was AI. Looks like I was right.
Just as a note: earlier this year I stated I'd keep subscribing to Spotify because the recommendations were worth the cost. I was wrong, and I'm slowly starting my transition away.
I just don't understand anyone wpuld Listen to an AI knockoff of KG when you can find all of their concerts uploaded by their official bootlegger on the archive.
Them pulling out of Spotify was the last push I needed to switch to Tidal. The only downside for me is there was a spotify exclusive cover of Daisy by Wet Leg that you can’t get anywhere else.
Giz has all of their stuff on bandcamp for pay what you can
Wet leg is in there too
Join mp3 gang and leave streaming behind
any recs for good mp3 players? hard to find an affordable good condition ipod classic nowadays
old phone whats still got the plug
Winamp really whips the llama's ass
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Qobuz allows you to stream but also to buy high quality albums which you can then download as well. Of course choose the option you prefer as long as you support bands you listen to. I bought plenty of King Gizzard albums on Bandcamp too now. Other bands I buy vinyl from that sometimes also means I get codes for those albums on Bandcamp. And through Qobuz artists I listen to at least get higher reimbursement for those streams.
One complaint I have about Qobuz isn't even Qobuz fault.
But often my purchased track are removed shortly after purchase.
The DMCA trolling is so bad that Qobuz has to prunt a warning that you download your tracks ASAP after purchase.
That said i can't find better services than Qobuz and Bandcamp.
My biggest complaint is they act like everyone in Belgium speaks French. And you can't choose your language for either communication or interface, they base it of country. So despite being part of a majority of Dutch speakers, I get everything in French, including French language artists.
Still worth it though.
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Bandcamp gets so much of my money....it's the best service
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I haven't used spotify for years. I never paid for it. I've been buying music (mostly from Bandcamp) and I have no regrets. I try to see bands live when I can, too, and buy a shirt or something.
Repulsive.
Also, can't they sue?
I honestly never went to Spotify. I listen to music between YT and Soundcloud most of the time, just about every song you can think of is on there and a lot of indie artists you never heard of, although SoundCloud appears to be getting worse by the day you now need to close 3 popup windows before you're allowed to listen to music without signing in and a lot of the music on there is sped up or has a sharp ping in it to avoid detection algorithms.
God I really hate yt music. I fucking miss Google music. It was one of the best players out there.
I'm currently using OpenTune. Works great. What are you guys on?
musicolet (phone) mediamonkey (desktop)
Holy shit I forgot about media monkey. Trying to remember the one I used to use on Linux. Clementine I think? There was a good KDE and GNOME one I remember.
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