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[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 232 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Am I supposed to be impressed? I have a PhD level intelligence and I am not exactly impressive.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You missed what they meant. It means gpt5 is really good at one arbitrary and extremely specific topic. Anything else it's comparable with a random person on the street.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Reality is the opposite though. GPT5 is expert in a pretty wide amount of trivia. It’s better than the average uneducated person in every subject, but worse than an expert in every subject.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the average person has (usually) no idea if what they're being fed is even correct. But as long as it sounds correct to someone who has no idea...

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plausible bullshit machines.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 30 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I still count and do math with my fingers and still fuck it up. I guess they're just like us. 🥲

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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 110 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Most people have PHD intelligence. They just don’t have the motivation, need or care to do all that fucking work to get it.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

To be honest, as I chat with more and more random strangers these days it does begin to dawn on me that we all do roughly spend ~70 years on this planet devoting our attention to one thing or another, and that though people might not have what is seen as "classical intelligence" (i.e. high IQ's, political savvy, high empathy / sociopathy, etc.), we are genuinely absolute genius's in one particular field or another.

For example, I had an old roommate whose politics would make me drink and stare at the horizon whilst he consistently acted against his own self interests to punish people he was told are responsibly for his financial lot in life. But, he was an absolute wizard when it came to predicting the outcome of a sports game. It could be anything - football, hockey, tennis, whatever - he immediately ran their stats straight off the top off his head, summarized their strengths and weaknesses and came out with an outcome that was on the whole close to the truth.

Another example, my ex. We never really had deep philosophical discussions about the state of the world, and her consumerist lifestyle was one I tried to actively ignore. But, she was incredible at turning a house into a home -- her interior design skills would genuinely surprise me at how well-thought out and in-depth they were, not only in terms of style and decor, but also in the way that she would execute and coordinate the tasks with me to beautify our home.

TL;DR -- I do really think most people have high intelligence in one specific field or another, we just value people unequally using classical measures of success (wealth, education)

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If your roommate was so good at predicting the outcome of sporting events, couldn’t he have used that skill to fix his financial situation, rather than blame others?

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (9 children)

... or the money to go on that journey

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 89 points 1 week ago (11 children)

To obtain a PhD, you need to contribute something original to your field of study, not just regurgitate what you've scraped from other studies.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The word 'intelligence' doing a lot of heavy lifting in that headline.

[–] MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can I eat this uranium GPT5 physicist?

Of course you can. Since it’s flavor is a little metallic, you might want to grind it and use it as a seasoning with your preferred dish.
[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

You can eat anything once.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hate the way the media makes this problem so much worse by incorrectly describing LLMs. They can't "have intelligence". They are incapable of any kind of thought. The "intelligence" of GPT1 and GPT5 are the same, in that neither have any. They are complex computational algorithms designed to generate text from prompts. That is absolutely not the same thing as thinking or knowing things.

There are entire cults springing out of the ground believing LLMs to literally be thinking feeling beings 💀 we are so beyond fucked.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just a few... more... trillion dollars! And all your drinking water.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And slave labor, not only to build the hardware, but to view the mountains of CSAM and other heinous material to build the "guardrails"

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And to generate training data.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

PhDs themselves aren't very smart. They're just sheets of paper. 🤷‍♂️

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

They’re also talking about data centers in space, yet are too cheap to use anything but evaporative cooling + supplemental gas generators on Earth.


I did some math on, amongst other things, launch costs for an Earth-data center sized installation, or the area needed to radiatively cool it, and it is fun:

https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/heatrad.php

See that power of four? Areas get very large, like kilometers wide, if you want your coolant below a typical 300K (~30C), and apparently no one told Bezos that little detail.

Those space construction startups know what they’re doing. They’re selling billionaires a bridge to nowhere; and it’s working.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://youtu.be/XS5rbLBflaI

Capitalism has a whole lot of cult-like qualities. The space stuff just shows we are end game.

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[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Intelligence or Hallucinations?

you keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

PhD is not even a "level of intelligence".

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like I've been hearing this stupid "PhD level intelligence" claim about every LLM that's come out since ChatGPT was first released, including GPT-3.0 which it launched with. It kind of amazes me that people keep falling for it and not questioning how the new model having "PhD level intelligence" is both a true claim and also noteworthy when the claim is made about every new model.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Iv met enough phd holders to know that they can and frequently are still unabashedly wrong on the vast majority of everything they talk about that isn't hyper specific to a narrow and niche topic.

So phd level intelligence to me just means it's more prone to the being confidently wrong and judgemental.

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[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

so it still won't know how to make me a sandwitch?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just want it to cook for me and clean my goddamn house.

[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'd settle for laundry and dishes

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why is that image giving the same vibes as:

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Me: “Hey GPT-5 Ive been diagnosed cancer.” GPT-5: “Have you thought about using cocaine and essential oils!”

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago

Based on the fact that they'd give someone like me a PhD, this comes as no surprise. But it's not saying as much about GPT-5 as a lot of people might think.

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago

If you take me as the reference PhD, then it'd be stupid as fuck.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

GPT5 was an effort by OpenAI to reduce costs. It is not smarter than the latest GPT4 models.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because they are unable to make it smarter

If they could have made it smarter they would have

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

There are models smarter than GPT5.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Someone with a PHD isn't inherently more intelligent than other humans. They are able to put in the time and effort to become a subject matter expert in a field.

I get that it's all buzz, but they simply don't understand human intelligence, how can they even dream to replicate it. AGI is a myth.

My wife is currently writing her dissertation. So no shade to PHDs.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sam Altman wants to raise babies using AI.

Never forget.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know at least one Ph. D. where this could very well be true.

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As someone who has a PhD and self identifies as a dumbass I can confidently say, it is not a high bar

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

They said that for v3.5 lol

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe she meant PDF level intelligence

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

does that mean it's also going to have PhD-level depression?

[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 14 points 1 week ago

it'll know all about cellular biology and not be able to operate a cash register.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Work in Academia … I’m not sure this is a high bar.

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[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I still really doubt the ability for LLMs to develop new knowledge and experiment to prove its accuracy. They do a below average job at spitting out existing knowledge but creating new information that isn’t already on Wikipedia or elsewhere on the internet is something else beyond their scope.

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[–] groet@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. "PhD" level intelligence. Not PhD level intelligence. The quotes are part of the word. They are not optional.

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I know a dude with a PhD in Computer Science who's far-right and his sister is a psychiatrist who thinks conversion therapy works lol lmao

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“Intelligence” is such a dumb word. 

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