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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

Brocero Program 2.0

It's funny how the US relationship with Mexico and South America has ping-ponged back and forth between "We need these people to sustain the economy!" and "These people are invaders who are erasing our culture!" for like the last century.

I said it back during Trump's first term and I'll say it again (and again and again as time moves forward, as I'm sure people will never wise up to the game) - illegal immigration is a nothingburger of an issue that gets puffed up every time an authoritarian needs a scapegoat to blame all of societies woes on.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 26 minutes ago

The worst part is the people don’t even want to stay here. If they could, they would come to work, and then leave after they made their money so they could be with their families. But they’re scared they won’t be able to come back so they never leave.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

If ICE can detain you without checking your papers and with no due process for the crime of looking a bit too bronze, what good is a new type of visa?

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 55 minutes ago

A tale as old as time.

Funny, I remember Florida running into a similar issue a few years ago when DeSantis passed that law making it illegal for migrant workers/immigrants to drive or for US citizens to drive them.

Houses left to rot as workers fled the state and supply chains disrupted as freight trucks refused to enter the state and simply dumped their loads at the border.

I never did hear how that worked out for them, but I imagine they quietly walked back that law and pretended that it never happened.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

They want an endless supply of people they can keep pointing to as the 'out crowd.' They keep using the stick, but neglected any use of the carrot. Now the mule has gotten wise to them.

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 11 points 4 hours ago

SURE, get a visa, then ICE sees you, beats you and maybe kills you, then throws you into a deplorable concentration camp for weeks.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 6 hours ago

Imagine how desperate one would have to even have a fleeting thought of applying for this visa. And again, why aren't they addressing the businesses role?

[–] OhioComrade@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Texas builders were happy to exploit people who they could underpay for their labor due to their precarious position. If we gave immigrants regardless of status workers rights like minimum wage and union protection the new complaint wouldn't be about deportations, but about how wages are too high right now.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Texas builders were happy to exploit people who they could underpay

Just like the entire USA pretty much since it was created.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

Its almost like the immigration laws only exist to create a permanent underclass and they worked really well at doing exactly that.

Imo, anyone in a trump concentration camp should just get citizenship as part of the de-trumpification process.

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Those people will get that visa and ICE will still detain and deport them to make their quota.

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 45 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

If ICE is rounding up anyone who looks Hispanic, ignoring or dismissing their papers, then a new visa isn't going to help, is it?

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You don't understand this is working as designed.

The president of the United States just needs a donation or two towards his "library" and then you can have all your totally legal migrants.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

its a ring toss game

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

This one will have gold trim around the edges.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 13 hours ago

Fuck no. Migrant workers can have jobs with people who won't fuck them over. Until members of the Regime are forced to be worm food, the USA ain't fit to hire anybody.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 71 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Dumb as fuck on top of fuck.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Republicans want immigrants as long as they are tied to a visa, which makes the immigrant reliant on their employer to stay in the country. It's basically a personalized tyranny.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

How many people "deported" already had legal paper work? Providing them with different paperwork isn't going to change anything.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 17 points 13 hours ago

Still doing their best to bring back slavery after all these years.

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

If the only way an industry could survive is through immigration, it is obvious that there needs to be a legal path for the skilled workers to immigrate. Maybe this should have been considered before the deportation surge.

But I suspect given the sponsors of this legislation that this is unlikely to have a path to citizenship and will amount to indentured servitude.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They want the "migrant worker" paeudo-slavery thing they do in other parts of the world, where laborers are a separate class of worker which don't have rights. And by do t have rights, I don't mean like the cure state of affairs where the constitution still applies to undocumented immigrants. They want to codify a separate class of non-rights into law for these people so they can never use their employer, don't have a minimum wage, can be charged for housing, etc

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

100%. They look at Dubai and UAE and see opportunity

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 33 points 17 hours ago

MAGAs are inherently lazy, and thinking is hard, so they don't think beyond their initial pleasure at seeing the Libz getting outraged at their bullshit.

It never occurs to them that Libz are pissed that the stupid policy is going to cost a LOT of money, raise prices, kill people, etc. Then those things happen, and MAGA is pissed that Libz let it happen.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, they want immigrant labor but not immigrants.

They're happy to see them working a field but don't want to have to "press 1 for English".

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

giving them legal citizenship/permanent residents meanign they would have give higher wages and pay more taxes, people arnt going to pay for that, both republican/dem homeowners.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

My understanding was that many farm workers were entirely legal under temporary work programs. Farmers need a flood of additional workers during harvest, that they can’t afford year round, and people in lower income countries can benefit from a month or two of higher pay.

That’s one of the things that seem missing from this conversation. What parts of it work or don’t work? Wouldn’t it have been much cheaper, easier, respect human rights and the law to adjust that where necessary? (But probably needs to include consequences for companies)

How is that program doing? Still allowed? How do farmers expect to handle the work? Are people being terrorized by ice into not participating because they can expect inhumane treatment based on the color of their skin?

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[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So apparently ICE doesn't accept given official id anyways, why is anyone going to want to come on a hope they don't end up in a concentration camp? Yeah I'm not betting on those odds.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 10 hours ago

well they are buying WAREHOUSES TO BE turned into concentration camps.

[–] MOARbid1@piefed.social 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Can we all just agree to not give a shit about Texas? Oh, and Florida.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I would extend that to most of the deep sourh... They dug this hole themselves...

[–] MOARbid1@piefed.social 11 points 16 hours ago

More like Republicans dug the hole, and then all of their constituents walked in like lemmings

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

From the House member's page:

The legislation responds to pressing labor shortages in essential industries by creating a market-driven temporary worker program that adapts to economic conditions. The bill creates a new H-2C nonimmigrant visa, available to employers who prove their positions have gone unfilled for three consecutive months and in areas where the unemployment rate is 7.9% or less. 

Wasn't this a pain point with H-1Bs? They want things to cost less but don't want to bring in cheap foreign labour to depress wages? How do they not understand supply and demand? "Go be a plumber, they make good money" "Wow, this quote I got from that plumber is so high" "Me be a plumber? No way"

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

And the visasl application deposits are efficiently channeled into accounts coincidentallt controlled by whom?

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Shoot, shoulda replaced "battle" with "grifting".

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Probably the only guy who became president in a very long time to actually have a well thought out immigration policy was George W. Bush (yes, the war criminal) back when he was governor of Texas. He even wanted to implement some of it as president. Unfortunately, he was a dummy, Cheney was a cartoon villain, and 9/11 absolutely derailed any conversations about doing anything that did not involve killing muslims and erroding Americans' civil liberties.

To this day, some of his immigration ideas are what MAGA would call super woke.

https://www.bushcenter.org/topics/immigration

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago

Yep. And even with that 2012 autopsy saying go back towards something like this they went full on maga bullshit and somehow won.

Says a lot about Republicans and our country.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 13 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Deport a shitload of people at great financial and human cost, then spend more money to create an entirely new class of visas so they can come back to a country that has not just deported migrants legally here, but people who have citizenship! Very small government and big brained.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 10 hours ago

given by the lack of news on migrant farmers, or hospitality, it must really bad in the south economically, republicans never report on tourism dependant on cheap labor that has been discouraged from the area.

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[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

This brand new visa is called the:

Standard

Labor

Agreement

for

Varied

Employment

Or SLAVE for short. Please disregard the similarity to the word depicting the oppression of others. It REALLY has nothing to do with that. REALLY!!!

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's so stupid it hurts. And even if they get such a solution, nobody will come anymore.

One can only hope. I'm sure some people will happily sign up thinking that the leopards won't eat their faces.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Hey can a fellow leopard pass me some of that face-flavored popcorn?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

lions, hyenas, caracals have joined as well.

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