I'm absolutely flabbergasted that anyone walks anywhere without constantly scanning around them. How do people have the attention span to just look at where they are going and only where they are going?? And that is just the first hurdle I have...
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I went to Japan with 3 friends, all of us male. The itinerary was public and shared, we made discussions on where we were going each day. In train stations and cities all 3 of them asked me how was it that I didnt need to pause and could just keep walking to our next location. I pointed out the signs with perfectly legible english/romanji. The signage in Japan is great.
I get compliments on my perception, and refer to it as a minor super power of mine, but I think it's because I'm just constantly looking around.
/signed by someone who is also flabberghasted
As a transfem I am always looking for the bear :3
(NV reference)
Leaves me wondering if this indicates some kind of biochemical/neurological difference, or just like sociological differences. Like are women processing vision differently from men, or is this happening just because women are more worried about getting attacked.
Women tend to also process visuals differently. I do think I've seen data that show men's eyes tend to be more sensitive to movement while women tend to have better color recognition on average. Movement is often also detectable in the periphery.
So when women look at dark areas they may see more things there in color, this may create a sort of feedback loop for night time visual behavior in addition to obvious sociological concerns.
The way to test for a visual feedback loop would probably be to evaluate night time driving (or other safer conditions) differences to see if women tend to look more at low light areas.
Alternately you could put men and women out in the woods and see if their behavior aligns.
Would need to compare it to the same data sampled from different places.
is this happening just because women are more worried about getting attacked.
Uh... It's complicated, but
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_fear_of_crime
Long story short, the less likely the crime, the more women are afraid of it happening to them.
(And yes, this sentence is very slightly cherry picking data to provoke people to read the wikipedia page).
Doomguy is a woman, confirmed.
Noted. Attack men from the side, women from the front 😎
Wouldn't work, men don't just star blankly ahead, we scan the periphery without moving our eyes. We don't need to scan all around because our periphery is really good at spotting movement, this is why we can't see that thing in the fridge despite being right in front of us, it's not moving.
You joke, but when I worked in a grocery store people would ask for help finding something and nine times out of ten it was literally right in front of their face.
Doesn't the Jurassic Park power-restore scene align with this, too? Muldoon gets wrecked by a raptor on his side, while Ellie immediately notices/dodges the one that pokes through the wiring.
Is this Loss?
New proof that I am indeed a woman just dropped 💅🏻
Take that transphobes !
This is what peripheral vision is for.
Yeah, peripheral is better to detect subtle movement in low contrast areas.
What is a BYU study ? DDG returns a mormon thing
BYU = Brigham Young University. Famously mormon.
Thanks for the context
No source, no sample size, just content to make people angry.
I put the source in the comments: https://news.byu.edu/intellect/study-visually-captures-hard-truth-walking-home-at-night-is-not-the-same-for-women
Guess I'm a woman now. Thanks PTSD. Didn't even get the boobs.
I'm in the same boat. My wife is oblivious most of the time while my head is on a swivel.
They used to call him the Owl in highschool, not because of his rotating head but because of the inappropriate hooting noises he made whenever his future wife walked into the room.
that location at BYU specifically is informally known as Rape Hill, so of course the women aren't looking straight ahead
i know i'm very glib and i joke a lot, but i'm deadly serious right now.
Makes sense for the school that expels women for being assaulted. As if I needed another reason to hate BYU
They call it nonconsensual immorality
https://apnews.com/general-news-domestic-news-domestic-news-6b3c434ba4ab476f904fa5652fad01ee
I’m not buying that heatmap data. Why are almost all the dots on the left red? That would mean that women pick a random spot and focus on that for an extended period of time before moving on to the next. This is not really how you’d investigate a scene. The right images are much more believable to me: Short glances at random points to get an overview of the scene and then re-investigating points of interest.
I am a man, though. Women: Do you really stare random points into oblivion?
Edit:
Ok, at first I thought this was actual eye tracking information. However,
[researches] asked [participants] to click on areas in the photo that caught their attention.
Then the different-colored dots make even less sense. And why are there fringes?
Considering how common and easy eye tracking is, this seems like some shitty science.
whaaaat surely BYU, the school that claimed to have done cold fusion, is an upstanding pillar of academic research
I'm male but when I was a kid, my mom talked about stranger danger a lot and warned me about the supposed widespread kidnappings (was in China) and warned of "strangers following me home" I constantly just look around and glance back behind me every 30 seconds or so and check if someone is following me... and same thing when in the US too
This habit just stuck with me...
I probably look weird af lol
Fun fact, that behaviour, which becomes more common among people living in areas with higher crime rates as a self-preservation technique, is viewed as suspicious behaviour by police, and is likely to get you tracked by security if you do it in a store.
It also attracts the attention of people who are looking for an easy mark. Looking around nervously makes you look like a target in bad neighborhoods.
I tend to turn it into a "casual sweep" of the scene. I'm looking at leaves, architecture, license plates! Well, and also getting a glimpse of whoever's around me. From being bullied in grade school, to learning to fly in college, with growing up as a young women between the two eras, situational awareness has become baked into my existence. But it's not a bad thing, it's a skill.
Tangentially, I wonder how much of this increased situational awareness plays into our famous "women's intuition"? If we're taking in more of our surroundings, it makes sense our unconscious minds will notice more readily when something's "off."
As well, I've often considered my "luck" to come down to increased awareness. When retrospectively thinking about a sequence of events, I can sometimes put together how noticing A led to me doing B, even if I didn't consciously think about it at the time. Like unconsciously noticing that a car in front of you is somewhat lopsided and getting the urge to switch lanes and pass them. You're not thinking about it. But later on when that car spins out on a flat tire, you're well past them - a safe distance away.
Or a situation that undoubtly makes people think I'm lucky - finding four-leaf clovers. A split-second scan of the ground and I can notice a four-leafer in a patch. Just a few months ago I was pumpkin-picking with my girlfriend and it happened again. We were standing outside and I was telling her about this exact phenomenon when I stopped, laughed, crouched down, plucked one particular clover, and handed it to her. "See?! It just happens!" I then proceeded to find two more, and at that point I knew I had to stop myself.
So yeah, it's not all bad. :)
I look mostly at the ground to avoid stepping on dog poo.
Edit: looks like the study was not done using eye tracking and was instead done with pictures:
https://news.byu.edu/intellect/study-visually-captures-hard-truth-walking-home-at-night-is-not-the-same-for-women <- news thing
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/vio.2023.0027 <- paper
Participants were given 16 images and asked to consider walking alone through the place in the picture. Using the Qualtrics heat map tool, they were instructed to imagine themselves walking through these areas and to click on the area(s) of the image that stood out to the most to them.
Source: the research article paper I linked above
Also, even if it was done with some type of eye tracking glasses, if you knew you were taking part in a study, would you be worried about what might happen, in comparison to how worried you are normally? Like I'm not gonna be worried about someone sneaking up on me if I know I'm being observed and more likely to be safe, so naturally I'd be more relaxed. I imagine the same applies for other people.
Broad conclusions for a study conducted on a population of ~500 undergrad students at a single religious university in one city of one state of one country.
Based on reaction to images, clicking with a mouse where subjects looked
Could just as easily be a study on how different sexes respond to the same instruction
I feel like you should probably do this study again outside of BYU and more generally outside of Utah, Mormon culture especially Utah Mormon culture is weird and could definitely fuck with a study like this.
Though fun bit of personal experience with this exact scenario, my grandmother has better general visual awareness while my non visual awareness is a lot better overall. This means I subconsciously avoid things around me due to feel, sound, and smell but can be looking directly at something and not see it. Probably has something to do with the fact my eyesight is naturally fucked though, so my edge vision is basically useless for everything outside of movement since it's basically just a blurry blob.