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[–] huf@hexbear.net 70 points 5 days ago (2 children)

haha, robert e lee, man famous mainly for losing. oh yes, he sure had a great effect.

the people who torpedoed reconstruction and created jim crow had a much greater effect, ffs.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

grillman Sure, but did any of those people have a Dodge Charger named after them in a TV show?

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago

dammit, i was coming here to make some kinda joke about it.

Roscoe P. Coltrane would definitely rate the 4 wheeled general as highly influential on his car naps.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Funny he is considered more influential than his counterpart and I don't mean any generals in the union. By counterpart, of course, I mean none other than the brother of Jesus Christ himself, Hong Xiquan, leader of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom.

You see, while we were having our quaint little civil war over here in the "new world" back in China they were having their own. Our boy Hong here claimed himself to be the younger brother of Christ and formed his own little Kingdom under the noses of the Qing dynasty. While we were suffering casualties in the mere 100s of thousands, they were dying by the millions. Wikipedia lists the total KILLED (not even wounded, mind you) as 20-30 million people and I've seen sources that estimate it as high as 50 million. Oh, and this rebellion lasted twice as long as the American Civil War and was happening as the American Civil War was also happening.

I've never met a fellow American who knew about this, either. We literally stroke ourselves off like we are the center of everything when something 30-50 times as wild is happening on the other side of the world.

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 64 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)
[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Mozart ahead of Genghis Khan che-smile

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's nuts. What would the world even look like if Genghis Khan didn't exist?

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

Far less different than the world if Mozart never existed apparently.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

but two of the top 3 weren't white, and i'm not too sure about Napoleon either if we asked Ben Franklin the on true arbiter of european whiteness.

ok that's probably white jesus, not itinerant rabbi yeshua, but i haven't heard of any white muhammad conspiracies before.

[–] varmint@hexbear.net 57 points 5 days ago

List of "people I remember learning the names of in American high school history class"

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 61 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No Mao? I thought he killed a 100 billion people?

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 47 points 5 days ago

Yeah I've been told he was worse than Hitler, so he should be above Hitler on this list right?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 60 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Deeply unserious list. Johannes Guteburg and Eli Whitney were more influential than everyone else on here combined. And they're only notable because we don't know the exact people who invented movable type in China/Korea or interchangeable parts in ancient Carthage.

Inventors had more impact on history than any politician or philosopher. Antibiotics, the internet, refrigeration, the scientific method, gunpowder, fermentation, and nuclear bombs...the list goes on of things that changed the world more than George Washington.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 52 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The zipper has more impact on the modern world than George Washington

There comes a point where who made the thing doesn't even matter. It's just that it was made. There's a reason so many inventions have multiple originators. They always come from what came before. No one person is uniquely amazing, there's just occasionally people with the correct drive, skill, and opportunity to connect the dots and come up with the thing.

Look up the number of inventors who died destitute trying to sell their invention that later went on to change the world. How many of them do we just not know about because Edison et al didn't find a way to exploit their work or know they existed?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

...which is why this list is deeply unserious. The Great Man of History isn't real because history is driven by systems, people within those systems, and through advancement in how humans perform labor.

So when Eli Whitney rediscovered interchangeable parts (they were discovered much, much earlier by Carthage, then lost), it allowed for rapid industrialization. And Whitney was only one of a handful of people making the same discovery, but the first to present it to people with the power to implement it. Putting Woodrow Wilson in the same category, however, is complete nonsense.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

Vulcanization is another good one. Exploitation of a natural resource in South America. It was kinda useless, then vulcanization was "discovered" when they literally could have just spoken to the tribes they enslaved to harvest rubber for 3 seconds and seen that they had been vulcanizing for a thousand years...

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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 5 days ago

Why is Charles Darwin not at the top? If he had not invented evolution we'd still be monkeys.

[–] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 42 points 5 days ago

Trash list

Where's goku?

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 46 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

15 amerikkka presidents on this list lol. Including Nixon and no-oil for some reason. Burgerlanders really think they are the center of the universe.

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 36 points 5 days ago

The amount of British monarchs is also weird. Why on Earth is Charles II on this list?

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[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 42 points 5 days ago

Looks like Kissinger couldn't even make it into stormfront's great man theory list. Already forgotten lmao rip bozo crab-party crab-party crab-party

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 39 points 5 days ago

King Arthur, a completely fictional person, #85.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 41 points 5 days ago (4 children)

What are the units for historical impact?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 54 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Emanuel@hexbear.net 31 points 5 days ago

Inverse melanin scale

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It searches through wikipedia checking how much each page was accessed and then use algorithms to try to eliminate bias. The book's Wikipedia page explains it.

I thought it was an academic paper but it may just be a book with fun facts.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 27 points 5 days ago

Bit idea: start a Wikipedia edit war on Charlie XCX's page to trick their algorithm into thinking Brat Summer was the most important event in human history.

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[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

OP I see this is from Reddit. Post the link or you are a lib.

List of people that definitely shouldn't be there, what the fuck:

  • Aristotle
  • Jefferson (Influential in the US? yeah. Globally? Nah.)
  • Mozart
  • Beethoven
  • Ulysses Grant (how American to have him on the list)
  • Da Vinci
  • Carl Linnaeus
  • Charles Dickens (so many authors. Yeah they were inspirational and influential within the literature scene of their area, so was Katy Perry and the British twink I can't remember the name of anymore. If that's your criteria you gotta expand your cultural horizon beyond Europe and the US. Unironically, if this is your criteria, you gotta put in Akira Toriyama.)
  • Paul the apostle (why not have every pope then?)
  • Benjamin Franklin
  • Thomas Edison (You could make an argument about shaping IP law or whatever, but I won't)
  • so many more. This entire list is a joke.

This entire list is so fucking American as well. Yeah dude every guy who shaped your civic religion is super duper globally influential. Fuck off.

What no materialism does to an mf

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[–] Carl@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

Did they seriously not put Mao on there?

I mean I'm sure Joan of Arc was cool, but she didn't exactly lead the largest successful revolution in world fucking history.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago

Also I don't see Confucius on this list. Am I supposed to believe Grover Cleveland was more influential than Confucius?

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

But 6 different British monarchs and also Churchill.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I have a Snorlax in Pokemon Go named Big Fuck that I caught 8 years ago, which is twice as long as the Confederate States of America even existed

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago

Elvis being ranked a bit higher than Lenin who himself is waaaay down from Stalin is pretty funny

[–] Salem@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Napoleon being number 2 is picard a choice.

Edgar Allen Poe more influential than King David...

The source is just an opinion in of itself too.

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[–] Civility@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Shakespeare at #4 is wild.

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Napoleon more influential than the prophet (PBUH). James Cook is on the list at all??? Nixon, Louis 16, KING ARTHUR, Michelangelo all on the list.

Dante is on the list lol. Wtf. This is such an "look at how cultured I am! Isn't it crazy I'm only 15 years old?" List.

Willy is one of the only authors on the list I could accept being on the list, but at number 4??? Absolute insanity.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

King Arthur

Oh FFS

[–] fox@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

Lenin in 75th place?

[–] Elysia@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago

I can't even properly articulate why, but the reddit watermark over Calvin and Locke on this horrible list is so incredibly funny to me

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 22 points 5 days ago
  1. Muhammad

  2. Karl Marx

  3. Whoever invented the stirrup

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What impact did Joan of Arc did in history? Beside the tragic story the only thing she did was helping crown a king that doesn't fucking matter

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Great (Wo)man Theory states that she singlehandedly won the hundred years war by being inspirational

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[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Does someone wanna educate me on the lasting historical impact of Elvis Presley?

Also, Jesus and Muhammad @ #1 and #3 but Siddhartha Gautama gets ranked below Cromwell, the guy whose revolution didn't stick? Rough. At least he beat out King David.

And Roosevelt, the guy who led America out of the Great Depression and through WWII gets symbolized with a wheelchair?

There's just so much to unpack here.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

Of all the things to poke fun of, the Buddha being below Nietzsche might be the funniest to me.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This slop is at best a popularity contest set in the current times.

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