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[-] lckdscl@whiskers.bim.boats 97 points 10 months ago

✅ Western chauvinism

✅ Apathy

✅ Infantilization

Westoids never fail to disappoint. The liberalism on Lemmy has hit all time high. I'm so tired.

cringe

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago

White man's burden is still the western foreign policy. Never changed.

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[-] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 70 points 10 months ago

The good news about posts like this is that they make me appreciate hexbear-chapochat a lot.

palestine-heart stalin-heart

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 63 points 10 months ago

nostupidquestions

There is now one stupid question.

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 57 points 10 months ago

I'm just exhausted. "Unlike you, I believe the cop at my school is human." "I just can't endorse the use of violence." "We can't win anything if we're mean to people." "Hatred never got us anywhere."

Oh, where were you when all of the oppression was happening?

"I didn't agree with that, either."

Didn't think to smugly chide those in power, though, now did you? Because that's inevitable, but our response is unjustified escalation . . .

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 52 points 10 months ago

This site is the only place I can look at news and politics discussion without feeling like I am completely insane

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

100% this guy does some retail or email/excel/IT office job. Why are they speaking like they have any influence on American foreign policy lmao

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 49 points 10 months ago
[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago

You cannot convince me this is not a child. This is baby's first reddit atheist moment (and I say this as a reddit atheist).

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[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

The most Reddit comment to ever exist. Only missing a porn reference and the word "bacon" in there.

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

"why not just deploy some dual faithed Messiah figurehead"

He's actually asking for CIA Jesus?

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

"Why don't we just trick all the simple minded brown people with a shiny new religion?"

Gee I wonder why Americans have a global reputation as being somehow both condescending and self righteous and simultaneously dumber than dogshit.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

I blame Dune for injecting this idea into Liberal minds

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[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

smuglord Have they considered just not believing in a freaking sky wizard, since that's all this conflict is really about?

I took a look at their profile, and found casual ableism and misanthropy, the reddit-logo runs deep.

[-] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago

I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars. I still don't understand but I used to not understand too.

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago

this is one of the propaganda lines that westerners have been fed about the war. some of the ones I can think of:

  1. this war has been going on forever

  2. this is a religious conflict

  3. it's extremely complicated and ~nuanced~

for each one of these, the conclusion is "well, we can't really do anything about it, it's unsolvable". in reality, any reading of the history tells you that it hasn't been going on all that long, it has next to nothing to do with religion, and it's not complicated. Israel is clearly in the wrong, and there is a clear way to end the conflict practically overnight.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yep, blew my mind when I realized the people who were saying "it's a thousand year old religious conflict, an eternal battle between jews and muslims" were 100% full of shit. Israel was invented after WW2 and is a pretty clear cut colony and occupier. It's so simple it's hilarious, Israel is completely illegal and illegitimate

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

Israel is in the wrong but I don't think there's a way to end it overnight

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

the US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit (as witnessed by endless UN resolutions). end all aid to them, end all diplomatic cover, sanction them into oblivion, and I guarantee you the occupation is over within a week.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit

I have bad news to you about the other garden countries.

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

Isolate Israel diplomatically, cut off their funding from Europe/America and watch them slowly dissolve as the military breaks down and most of the population moves back to their original nations of origin.

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[-] utopologist@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago

We're reaching levels of liberal condescension that shouldn't even be possible

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 45 points 10 months ago

Unironic White Man's Burden shit

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

These Childlike Natives just cannot be trusted with the dehumanizing and oppressive social order that we graciously designed for them!

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 42 points 10 months ago

this is a certified us-foreign-policy moment

[-] muddi@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

Is that person American? Do they really think of a country born out of genocide just a few hundred years ago is more "adult" than the cradle of civilization itself, continually occupied by humanity since beyond memory, which has seen the rise and fall of countless nations and empires

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[-] MalarchoBidenism@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

DAE le adults in the room? smuglord

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

i didnt used to understand foreign involvement …

hey everyone the war understander has logged on.

[-] johnbrownwasright@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

"adults interfering" is how isn'treal was formed

[-] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago

This imaginary of the non-European world as inherently stationary and needing to be dragged [by the West] into civilisation kicking and screaming naturally gravitated towards biological explanations of power relations. Within this context, invocations of [...] infantilising tropes were not just distasteful transgressions or individual eccentricities, but rather a way of justifying the imposition and monitoring of a wide range of juridical practices of domination and disciplining.

Ntina Tzouvala, from “Capitalism as Civilisation.”

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I was readying a whole rant and your quote covered all my points succinctly. But I want to feel like I'm part of the discussion so I'll just regurgitate relevant stuff from media I enjoy

"Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth."

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

I didn’t used to understand foreign involvement in wars

But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.

Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

First of all, that's racist as fuck. Second of all, are they saying what I think they are?

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Liberals are back to 2001 era "glass the desert" rhetoric.

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[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

That post has to be by a child.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago
[-] panopticon@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

Adults need to intervene to take away that person's internet.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago
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[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

That first sentence is a real brain-melter

[-] Phish@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars. I still don't, but I didn't used to, too.

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

bro just smoke a bone and mellow

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

"yeah, i've been paying attention to this conflict pretty much since i was born. don't think anything important happened with it before i was born so that's pretty much enough for me to comment on it."

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

smuglord with implications of lethal retaliation against what they call infants. Reddit brain, not even once.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

Except in this analogy somebody came into your sandbox, drew a little circle and said that's yours and the rest is mine, keeps knocking down the sandcastle you built in your circle for several decades and then when you got mad and knocked down one of his once your parents kill you.

[-] iByteABit@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

Its physically painful that most people think like this. Then they point fingers and say that other countries use propaganda and their citizens are clueless about reality.

[-] gabaghoul@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

While my partner didn't have a brain dead take like this, I did have to give them a thorough explanation earlier on why the Israeli occupation is unacceptable and always will be until the settlement is removed. My partner is aware of some terrible policies and why those policies shouldn't exist, but hegemonic diasporas simply aren't on their radar. I'm just glad they're receptive and try to understand rather than falling prey for dumb hot takes like the screenshot above.

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