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[–] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 5 points 6 hours ago

Damn this just describes capitalism 101

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The real reason is that the people running those AIs that they put so much money into to get where they currently are are well aware that people can just run their own models locally and cut them out of the picture entirely so they are attempting to monopolize the hardware needed to run it under the guise of getting ready to expand into the future.

Though the storage I think is more about wanting to keep a log of each interaction with their model for training and other ways to profiting from it (openly or covertly).

Like the whole "ai output isn't copyrightable" benefits them because they can just straight up use whatever output their models generate and it will be perfectly legal.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

Not just AI. Many of these companies are also very entrenched in Cloud Services and have pushed cloud/subscription only models as a perpetual source of income.

By manipulating the supply chain to push up the prices of hardware, it's similar to how buying up the housing market allows incumbents to squeeze out competitors and ensure that they control how much "rent" people have to pay

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Yup. I sometimes suspect the “higher electric bill” (near datacenters) is to force people to use cloud services, rather than a private cloud method.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 48 points 15 hours ago
[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 100 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

This has got to be what tulip mania felt like right? Like we all know this is going to end badly.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

At least they still had some nice tulips in the end. All we get is shitty AI infecting everything.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 41 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] alternategait@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Totally! Now let's go make a soda bomb!

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[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Except those tulips were a plaything for the rich and the fallout was contained to the rich, and with AI the fallout is going to be put on everybody else.

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[–] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 63 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

When you say it like that AI sounds like one big scam.

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's irrational because this is being driven by billionaire techbros who think AI will bring them immortality.

[–] mnfalconia_a2gc@retrolemmy.com 7 points 13 hours ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the rich and powerful seeking immortality is nothing new.

[–] AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Reminds me of the Ankh Morpork Pork Futures Warehouse.

https://wiki.lspace.org/Pork_Futures_Warehouse

[–] brem@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

DDR3 still works just fine

Been running that shit since 2009

Slots open still, 4 to go

32 gigs and I can buy mo'

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 21 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Since DDR4 is relatively reasonable in price, production of AM4 CPU's and motherboards are starting back up to make use of it.

TBH, I'm for it. I'm still on that generation of hardware and it still works great

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The problem is organic demand is going up for older gen hardware and that will drive THOSE prices up.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's why we only talk about this on posts that don't get scraped by LLM

[–] x264@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You need to be really optimistic to assume that this post isn't going to be scraped

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[–] brem@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

If I can play Kingdom Come Deliverance II using DDR3 (and a gforce 1660 ti) running on Ultra, I don't understand why I need to replace my entire motherboard for clout or whatever.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

B550 at best new (likely old stock), decent chipsets are second hand only. Makes me nervous.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

AMD literally spent a bunch of development on reworking the 5800X3D for a different manufacturing process. It's new production.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I built an AM5 system because I wanted to ensure that if I want to upgrade it, I won't have to buy an entirely new motherboard. Coming from Intel who change their socket every two weeks, I thought it was a great idea at the time.

The cost wasn't prohibitive, the kinks ironed out quite fast. But I don't like DDR5 RAM. Like, it's RAM, I don't notice anything spectacular about it. What I do notice, is that it takes FUCKING AGES to post!

Startup finished in 20.971s (firmware) + 4.818s (loader) + 785ms (kernel) + 4.440s (initrd) + 7.741s (userspace) = 38.757s 
graphical.target reached after 7.697s in userspace.

It's taking 21 fucking seconds to do some kind of "memory training!" It used to be over 40 seconds! For what? No noticeable difference in user experience other than it taking forever to boot.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This makes me really sad & concerned for the future of modern computation.

It's obviously planned obsolescence for the sake of suppression pertaining to the masses.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

That was always the case. This PC replaced my 1150 socket intel PC, which had new CPUs made for it from Q3 2013 to Q3 2014. AMD at least keeps their sockets usable for a couple of years before they change them.

1150 was superceded by 1151. Those are the number of pins on the header by the way, so they had to add one extra pin because it was obviously stifling innovation.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The last time I upgraded my CPU was at least 8 years before I upgraded my GPU which was about 5 years ago..lol

You're right, my socket allowed me to get a much better model.

I know about pins and sockets, btw. But for the other readers, thanks for explaining ;)

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Aye, figured it was worth noting that they obsoleted it because they absolutely had to cram in that one extra pin! You can't convince me that they didn't do that just to fuck with people.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Planned obsolescence

Corporate essence

The end game is your wallets bane

Bring me to life, so says Evanescence

[–] brem@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Please do a Nathan Fielder reference

To me, he is Spielberg in his best essence

Miracle on the Mojave, I hold in great reverence

Donnie Darko is a story about seeing the future & doing the right thing, Donald Trump.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

Ddr3 and an an fx 8350 here! Runs great considering its 13 years old

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[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I think Louis Rossmann said it right: https://youtu.be/WpPIW4aeeag?t=699

tl;dw: "Fuck you!" ..."You have them for Sam Altman, just not for me."

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

Bit ironic that the image is generative AI slop

… or is it?

[–] TacticalToothbrush@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I am quite positive that it is AI gen.

  • RGB light (can be edit in)
  • RAM stick contact pins look too dense to be real
  • Thin CPU fan with big hub pointing down while cooler fin lay horizontal
  • Weirdly large distance between CPU and RAM socket
[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

The smooth focus effect on the heatsink made me think it was stock photography but tineye can't find it beyond February so it could easily be generated.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Aren't the ram slots also straight up placed wrong in the motherboard? I have never seen ram on a diagonal from the CPU before, or running parallel to the pcie slots, even on weird prebuilts.

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Oh, definitely. I was questioning whether or not the irony was actually deliberate, illustrating the end result of the fake money ouroboros

All kinds of weird going on with how the right hand is “holding” that module (while pinching another one behind it?)

Memory module is symmetrical.

No motherboard I’ve ever seen would have DIMM slots parallel to PCI slots, let alone that far from the CPU socket

Have a look at what would normally be the 24-Pin ATX connector - fewer pins, which is not unheard of in some proprietary cases, but the connector itself looks weird and garbled.

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[–] chocrates@piefed.world 12 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

How is it these days? I really need to build a nas and haven't checked prices in a few months.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

Still horrible

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 13 hours ago

Same as always, best time was last year, next best is now. Consider LTO5 tape backups.

[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

NAS

Decided to check the Synology RAM just for fun. I think they were quite overpriced even before.
Anyway, 16GB DDR4 Synology stick is EUR 1,409. What makes it EUR 88/GB?

[–] crimson_iris@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Remember when Synology decided to make their NASs incompatible with any hard drive not from Synology?

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

well they are mathematically possible just not necessarily economically feasible

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 points 18 hours ago

... by doing things that are impossible.

[–] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 12 hours ago

Tenet guys Tenet. Reverse Entropy.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 17 hours ago

TBF, step 1 was to take a shit ton of equity and purchase the small house sized machinery to make the memory stacks that will never be used....

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