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I'm currently playing "Cassette Beasts". Pretty fun game that takes the pokemon formula, and turns it on its head.

I will not play long and involved 300 hour games. It's too much. I want bite sized games.

The internet said this game is 25 hours long. Except thats bullshit. There are 130 monsters. I've caught 16. I've been playing for 17 hours. I don't know if this game has "gym leaders". But if they do, I haven't seen them yet.

I have no bad words about the game, other than the fact that it takes 10 minutes (I timed it) to go from not yet opening the game, to get to a title screen. It also crashes pretty regularly. Meaning you gotta wait 10 minutes AGAIN.

But the point is, I've barely scratched the surface of this game, and I'm approaching the time period where most people have beaten games.

Am I just bad at games?

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[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

No it's just a very open game. Probably you just didn't do the quest that unlocks gym leaders (which is joining the rangers)

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The game is loose in terms of goals. There are "Ranger Captains" that serve as a gymleader-like position, but you do not need to complete the ranger challenge to finish the game. If you focus on each arch-angel challenge, you can finish the mian story. I believe each companion character should lead your right into an arch angel. The rest you have to sort of explore and discover.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Does it matter if you are? As long as you are having fun and enjoying yourself.

But oof… the game crashing and 10 minute load times. Either that game is horribly optimized or you got something wrong with your machine.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago

cassette beasts is like that™

[–] pory@lemmy.world 35 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

That ten minute boot time is not normal. Something's very wrong with your PC, especially if other games or programs have minutes-long launch times.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago

No, Cassette Beasts has a lot of issues like this. For example, sometimes it instantly drains my entire battery for no reason

[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Either a dying HDD or their main drive is completely full.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't give us a reference point of their other games' launch times, but my first thought was this is a HDD gamer.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 8 hours ago

An HDD from 1990 maybe. Modern HDD wouldnt load that slow.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I have no bad words about the game, other than the fact that it takes 10 minutes (I timed it) to go from not yet opening the game, to get to a title screen. It also crashes pretty regularly. Meaning you gotta wait 10 minutes AGAIN.

I just started up the game now and it took 20 seconds to load into the title screen and then less than 3 seconds to load into a saved game. It sounds like you have some other issue causing the slow loading.

According to howlongtobeat.com, a leisurely pace takes about 28 hours to beat it. If you're particularly slow, you could probably take a good amount of time more. That doesn't mean you're bad at games though, especially since this type of game can be played very slowly since it's turn-based and there's nothing pushing you to play fast.

Play at whatever pace it takes you to enjoy whatever it is you're playing. As long as you're having fun, you're doing it right.

[–] buran@lemmy.today 6 points 14 hours ago

No need to rush, you are playing for yourself.

Enjoy the game at your own pace.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 46 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's a single-player game. Just worry about having fun.

Shot in the Dark with lyrics slaps IMO.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Like Chimeras slaps with lyrics.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Is that the song that plays in the cafe? Thats the only one I've heard with lyrics. I'm getting sick of that song, just because sooooooo much of the game is go out, fight, come back to the cafe. Repeat.

So you hear 30 seconds of that song over and over and over. It has the same effect on me that radio songs before the 2000s did. You just never want to hear it again.

Then you're just sitting on the toilet like "I'm certain.....I'm certain......". Then you get mad that now you're singing the song.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

That song is interesting.

I didn't like it too much either when playing the game because of how repetitive it got.

But then I finished the game, and months later I found myself missing it. It's kinda a sad song that doesn't really hit until it's been over for a bit. Now I listen to it every now and then.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

The cafe song is "Where Do We Go Now" and it is in fact lame. "Shot in the Dark" is the boss theme when you combine.

Check it out

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I liked the cafe song the first time I heard it. I was also high and very relaxed. By the 10th time hearing it in an hour it had lost it's charm.

I swear I've heard the song you linked, except without the lyrics.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why are you going back to the Cafe so often though?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Because my creatures are mostly dead after 2-3 battles in the wild. So you go out, have a few battles, and then cafe to rest. I'm over here at level 23, and still getting killed by level 9 creatures over a few battles.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

You did. When you combine the background battle tracks get lyrics.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 31 points 20 hours ago

I dunno who "the internet" is but HLTB says 54.5 hours for "completionist", which sounds like what you're describing.

https://howlongtobeat.com/game/78097

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

10 mins to get to a title screen sounds like a red flag without having actually played it myself

Assuming you're playing on PC, have you got it installed on an SSD rather than an HDD? Some games really don't like being run from an HDD these days

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I have no clue what OP is playing on, but I just booted it up on Steam Deck and got to the title menu in 75 seconds, and I shit you not 15 seconds of that was actually downloading an update and I didn't restart the timer.

[–] steel_for_humans@piefed.social 5 points 14 hours ago

Maybe OP is playing it off a cassette player like on C-64 ;)

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 19 points 20 hours ago

If you're playing like a completionist it's more like 54hrs!

[–] nous@programming.dev 25 points 21 hours ago

The time to beat a game is generally for the main story if you don't take ages doing other things. Quite often with side quests or other non essential steps like collecting things or trying to 100% a game it will take way longer then the estimated time to complete. This is epically true for more open-world type of games with lots of places to explore.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I always seem to take at least twice the stated play time to finish a game. Yeah, I think I'm just a bit slow. But if I'm enjoying myself, no stress. I'm playing baldur's gate at the mo, 140 hours in and I've only just started act 2.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

Wow I'm not alone lol... I've got about 120 hours in BG3, and still in Act I. Haven't played the game in a while though

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah just recently. Never played this type of game before but I'm really enjoying it.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 19 hours ago

No? No. You're just taking your time in your own pace.

Howlongtobeat also rate Deathloop 16.5 hours to beat, yet i took 38 hours to reach the ending for the first time. Some goes for Monster Hunter Rise, they said 23.5 hours for the main story but so far i spend 28 hours to reach high rank. Why? Because i took my sweet time to enjoy the game. It's your game, don't rush it if you like it.

[–] Pyro@programming.dev 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I'm always wildly over the HowLongToBeat hours when I'm done with a game. I care more about whether I'm having fun playing rather than hours taken.

[–] Nelots@piefed.zip 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Cassette Beasts took me about 40 hours to beat and close to 60 hours to fully 100% (though I did play on the hardest difficulty, which slows the game down A LOT). You're just taking your time and that's fine.

I personally didn't experience any crashes or incredibly long loading times... it ran just fine for me. What are you playing it on?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Retroid Pocket Flip 2.

Which is the exact same hardware as the Retroit Pocket 5. Just in a different shell/form factor.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Nope. I got the game for free from Epic Games some time back. I use a program called GameNative to play PC games on android.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

This is critical information that should be included in the op. You're jumping through a few hoops here on a comparably weak pc device. No surprise you're having these issues, sorry.

[–] delcake@piefed.zip 8 points 13 hours ago

I've tried playing this game via GameNative on an AYN Thor myself because I thought a handheld would be perfect for this kind of game. I'm on the steam version instead of Epic, but I can confirm that there's a monsterous load time when playing the PC version through GameNative. Subsequent launches were faster, especially after I lowered a setting in the menus regarding how it loads data from disk.

But even then, I had a lot of broken textures and models and semi frequent crashes too. I really recommend playing on traditional hardware for the time being.

GameNative has been actual witchcraft for a bunch of games, I'm playing Mina that way myself right now. But yeah for whatever reason, Cassette Beasts isn't playing nice with it yet.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Thought so. Your startup time and crashes are almost certainly attributable to running it via gamenative rather than the game itself. By not including that detail in your post you're being pretty unfair to the developers of the game IMO

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Dude, I bought Fallout 4 at launch. I still haven't beaten it. You're just taking your time. Sorry about the crashes, that's super frustrating. But I can relate, I remember New Vegas at launch.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Those figures are based on median scores submitted, but it's not very accurate when it's a self report because you lose slower people.

Anyway, you're also allowed to just enjoy a game, it doesn't matter how long it takes. I like to take things in, go afk randomly, search all over the place for Easter eggs and such, etc; I usually end up taking longer than those times and I assure you, I'm fantastic at playing games so no, you're not bad at games. Lol

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago

Probably slower people don't even bother posting their times?
Why waste time on that when you can take yours playing? :D

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

You might be, but at the end of the day, does it matter? The core point of gaming is to have fun, no matter how long you need. As long as you're not frustrated by the game, I think that's fine.

Maybe the game also isn't for you - there's so many different genres. Some people are shit at soulslike games, and there is nothing wrong with NOT enjoying a game. They might enjoy something different.

Now, what I personally have a gripe with is people being shit at games and crying online that it's "too hard" and they NEED to make it easier instead of, you know, not playing the game they apparently have no fun with. But in your case - take all the time you need, have fun and if you start to not have fun, stop the game.

With the crashes, idk, but that could be fixable by asking in communities for the game or maybe submitting a bugreport directly to the developer.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I’m also a slow gamer. Take HLTB as a rough estimate, then add ~15-20% over if it’s not absurdly bite sized like a tiny puzzle game and has quests, exploration, narrative, etc.

HLTB is also a matter of averages, and the people who are likely to report are also a self-selected sample. Don’t beat yourself up for it; as long as you’re enjoying your time that’s what matters most.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

The shit that says a game is X hours long is, generally, about how long it would take someone on the easiest difficulty and possibly using a guide or walkthrough to simply finish the main story when focusing all their attention on it. It does not include doing anything else, like collecting all the collectibles or doing any side-quests.

But the devs can also be pretty bad at getting to that number, especially inexperienced indie devs or other small teams that can't actually do the research and get a realistic number.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

howlongtobeat.com is usually where people are looking for these numbers. It has numbers for "main", "main + extra", and "completionist". I usually play games on at least harder than normal setting and I pretty reliably hit +-10% of the "main + extra" number with some rare exceptions, so I don't think your description is accurate at all.

I imagine some people are slower or faster at certain types of games but can still use the number as base to adjust from. For instance a slow reader might add a percentage to a text heavy RPG