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maybe, to replace my ageing Minisforum mini computer
i had thought of the Framework Desktop but was waiting to see what the Steam Machine brought to the table.
Nope.
I'll be using Boosteroid.
No
Hell no, I can still play all the games I want with my own computer from 2010, lol.
Machine? No.
Frame? Yes.
Would I like it to be cheaper. Of course. Are gaming consoles cheaper of course.
But I cant name 1 system or PC, which can waken when a Bluetooth Controller connects to it, and can play every game I own from the last 15 years, and every console game from the last 25 years.
Even Nintendo nickels and dimes you for this privilege, and with a one time purchase I can just remove my consoles and just use a Steam Machine, sign me up.
Not even PlayStation 5 can do what the steam machine does out of the box.
Yes. I have many PCs and laptops around the house already but I simply want it as a luxury item and to support the idea of open game consoles.
Especially considering its not doing anything a PC can't do (as far as I know).
It's a PC. Why wouldn't it do anything a PC can't do.
That being said, it does have the connections to wake the machine and your TV by acticating a connected Steam Controller
Tbh I'm in the same-ish boat, but, given the unknown economic situation in 6 months, I'm saving my disposable income. If everything chugs along, that $1500 unit might be up to $1800; if we hit the operational floor on oil, that $1500 would be better spent elsewhere. I'd rather spend another $300 come Christmas than starve; the steam machine will still be there if bigger problems don't arise.
Wasn't planning on it even before the price announcement, since it still would have been more economical to just upgrade my existing rig even if the SM was $750.
But now I'm not sure if I'll be able to get a Steam Frame if they are also expensive as fuck.
No one on Lemmy is going to be looking for an entry-level device, we're all boomers with custom rigs already.
PC gamers already have PCs, and console gamers don't want to spend $1000 on a console-PC. That seems to be the general vibe. It's not looking great.
The Steam Deck came in at a competetive price, and a handheld form factor, those two things made it a success.
You're missing an entire market segment of gadget nerds. I have no practical need for steam machine but I'm still getting it because it's fun, it's beautiful and it supports ideals I'm interested in. 1,000 usd is nothing for a luxury gadget.
Yeah but no way that market is big enough for valve to keep building steam machines.
Let's wait and see but I think it very well might be big enough.
Eventually, when the gen 2 comes out, I intend to pick up a used gen 1 to replace my Raspberry Pi 5. It's one of the very few general-purpose computers that has HDMI CEC support natively, and with KDE Plasma Bigscreen it should be a monster of a set top box.
No. I still have an AM4 PC that does everything I've asked it to do. While I applaud Valves contribution to the industry... it ain't fucking worth that. The real win is SteamOS pushing through and getting desktop OS support for all users.
Nah, I have a Steam Deck for travel and I don't really feel like I need anything else. Also, I couldn't really afford one anyhow.
Nope. Getting an Anbernic and Steam Deck opened the way to easy playing of older games, and I’ve been having a great time.
Recently I bought a mini PC with AMD 760M iGPU, just to get something modern, cheap and good enough in case prices get even worse.
Been playing Return To Castle Wolfenstein, The Settlers II remake, ballisticng, Fallout 4… quite a few other cheap and/or old games.
If triple A games are going to cost that much to play moving forwards I’m just not going to play them 👍
It's not just the price, it's the hardware. They could have gone for a slightly more powerful gpu, even in their thermal emvelope, and it'd xonfpunding they didn't. This way it gets beaten by a PS5, on both price and performance.
Doesn't mean I'd buy a PS5, but does mean there's many better options, even if you want small and quiet.
The PS5 is subsidized to get you into the ecosystem. Valve let's you play anything you like on the Steam Machine, so no incentive for them to sell at a loss.
I imagine they went for the less powerful GPU because hardware prices are insane across the board right now and Valve has no negotiating power with the manufacturers, as they said.
Probably not.
Even if it does rugs and upholstery both, they just don't get that dirty, normally. Almost all light stains I can get out with a careful application of soap & water and judicious toweling. Plus there's always rentals if needed.
I don’t know if mine is actually steam but having a machine feels like it’s been a good investment as a pet owner. Our dog is very good about going outside to potty but she does throw up from time to time and she will always try to find the limited amount of carpet we have in our house (I think it’s the closest thing to grass in her mind). Maybe it would be cheaper still to go rent a machine, but the convenience of being able to use it right away also has to be considered.
Oof yah, a pet situation could change everything, stat.
idk we have one of those small handheld ones you can get at Walmart for like $20 for getting out wrinkles and getting odors out of things like heavy coats that you can't clean otherwise. it's also great for reshaping things that wouldn't otherwise survive an iron like vinyl game maps that come in a tube or my old stethoscope from school that had been coiled up in storage.
After it was announced I was considering it, to replace an old (non-gaming) PC that I still need to use occasionally. But honestly, even if the price was half what it is, I don't think it would really serve much point in my hands.
The Steam Frame is what I'm really interested in, if I have the cash to splurge on it when it finally releases I'll probably nab it.
Nah, my PC is still good. Will be buying Half-Life 3 though if they release that.
Probably not, but I do have a Steam Deck and might buy a Steam Frame.
The cost is definitely a factor, but also, I've been building computers since the 90s and even my laptop can run everything I play already: I don't have much need for another computer right now, even if Valve made it. If I did really need a computer, I'd probably just build a better one for cheaper and slap Bazzite or Cachy on it.
If the price goes down, I might reconsider: I do like supporting companies that do right by their customers and Valve is one of the very few that still seem to make that effort.
I am, yes.
I’ve been building custom PCs for myself and my family/friends for the better part of 2 decades now. I know I can get a better deal on used parts to run a more powerful machine. But you know what means? I play tech support for my friends and family.
I’m buying this for myself but installing it where most people I know come walking through. Setting it up as a show piece to get people to ask about Linux and to ask about the PC. If this thing holds up as well as my Steam Deck with support, updates, and stability? I’ll go halves with all my gamer friends and relatives just to get them on a machine I won’t be called about because windows decided to release another borked update…
Obviously I have the exposable income to support this and am extremely lucky. I fully get why people are upset and think it’s a rip off tho.
I'm glad it exists because it's a much better alternative to consoles, but no, there's no point in buying that instead of a PC unless you have money to throw around on cool hardware
I don't really have a use case, but I would have considered picking one up anyways sometime down the line if it was a good deal. It's unfortunate that it's not. I was really hoping that Valve would try to subsidize it a little to at least make the cost not as painful, but I understand that it was never an expectation for them to do so.
I think it'll sell anyways, since there are people who don't want to worry about the technical challenges of building their own computer, and also don't want to spend time looking into and vetting pre-built brands. They just want a pre-built from a brand that they already know and trust. And I think the Steam Machine would fill that niche. It's a niche of a niche of a niche, but I suspect there would be enough people like that to still sell a decent number of Steam Machines.
As for the prices of other consoles? Steam Machine is such a low volume product that other consoles would not feel a thing no matter how successful it sells
If I didn’t already have a gaming PC and a Steam Deck, maybe.
Same here... I already have a "steam machine". I have a gaming PC connected to my TV via sunshine/moonlight (previously steam link). Heck you could even go HDMI cable, but I wanted to keep my PC in my office so I can use it as a work computer as well. If I didn't build my own gaming PC a few years ago I'd strongly consider it, though.
This is the boat I'm in.
I put a reservation down to help a friend get one. But I'm holding out for that Frame..
Maybe in a year or so. My Deck still works fine, not in a rush to replace it. The Frame on the other hand, probably a day one purchase.
I really like the idea of being able to sit in front of my TV and play Steam games on it as if they were Playstation games. I think I'd play them a lot more than I currently do, since I wouldn't need to go to my home office and sit where I spend most of my day already.
I have a pretty powerful PC for work purposes (image and video editing mainly) so it can handle most games fine (maybe not the absolute top end ones, I'm not sure) but I'm not going to move that into the living room.
So the Steam Machine feels like a great idea...
But I can't help but feel that there'll be issues with it - underpowered maybe, or lacking in features. Plus the rising cost is a pain.
Will wait to see how it turns out for early adopters. But I hope it's a success, I really do.
I’m the same way. I have a PC but I don’t want to game at the desk anymore, and I have a deck but not everything feels right on the small screen. I was going to get the steam machine, but the price came in higher than expected, and I would also need to get a controller… I will wait and see how the release goes. But there’s some fomo, because the deck has been out of stock for a while (I couldn’t upgrade to oled)
Why? I already have a PC, and if I didn't and were in the market for one I have a small one bedroom apartment, which is enough space to not have to budget every square inch. That means paying hundreds of monies more for a PC that's less powerful just because it's also a bit more compact would be a poor decision.
Yep. I'm downsizing and will be selling my gaming rig in favour of something small and less power hungry. Yes, the cube is more expensive than what I'd like but I'll be making a huge profit from my pre-2025 era PC anyway so I can afford it. It does what I want it to and there may even be opportunity to upgrade individual components down the line anyway since it is effectively just a mini-pc.
CPU and GPU are soldered to the board. Only effective upgrade are system memory and storage. Think if it as a nuc or laptop board.
Not really, I don't have money for a separate gaming console, and if I had, I'd probably still invest in my work machine. I want mass adoption for it become a reference in optimization for Linux systems but I myself can't chip in - I think that contradiction is shared by many.
I wish I could, but that price is way too high for me to justify it. If the price ever comes down I would be happy to see about getting one. I think at that price point it's only really accessible to enthusiasts with a lot of disposable income. There were a lot of more casual gamers that were interested in the machine before the price. They were able to get a deck at a $300-400 mark and they were interested to see what the Steam Machine would be offered at. But I am certain at this price that none of those people are going to get one. I'm sure the price is due to AI fucking everyone and not because Valve just wants to squeeze out money. But I think the result of this is that it's not going to be the widespread go-to option for a lot of gamers. It definitely hurt it's chances with a ton of potential customers.
No, but i really want one. Maybe in a few years if this insane computer pricing chills out a little or if I get a lot of money somehow.
I don’t have any solid gaming console or PC at the moment.
I have an Xbox Series S, a Nintendo Switch, and a Steam Deck.
I have been wanting to build or buy a decent PC for years, but money has always been tight.
All this to say… maybe? It seems to be on par with the prices of prebuilts. My job uses a third party system to give us bonuses and we can use them to get digital giftcards.
I am trying to convince them to add Steam giftcards to it. If I can get that it means I’ll definitely eventually be able to get a Steam Machine. But also I’m hoping that the price decreases over time, as unlikely as that may be.
This is an “eventual” purchase and not an immediate one, in my eyes at least.
For now, I have plenty of games I can run well on my Steam Deck, since I hardly played my Xbox. 8 basically skipped out on gaming from 2016-2025 really.
The Steam Machine would really just be something is remote play from the Deck from to either conserve battery life or run more demanding games, like BG3 or E33. Basically anything with unreal haha.
No. I already own a PC.
I can't find full-time work for over a year. I can't afford Chinese takeout. I want one, but it's far outside my price range.
I was going to save up for a 600 bucks version but I ended up buying a 200 bucks second hand gaming PC six months ago which will have to do.
Nope. Way too expensive.