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Funny how many Conservatives seem happy enough to go the party that is supposedly full of “woke leftists”. Almost as if the Liberals are actually conservatives, have been for a while, and too many of us are too stupid to have seen it.
Glad we nuked the NDP again for this!
Labels are stupid, though.
The NDP nuked themselves.
What’d they do to nuke themselves? The only complaints are “they don’t do anything” even they did a lot even just as the other member of a coalition government during the Liberal’s last run, and people also say they aren’t charismatic enough but I never once got the feeling that Trudeau was particulary charismatic and we just elected a boring banker who is even more boring now. Why the double standard all the time? Why do they need to be 100% perfect just to still get thrown aside but the Liberals get to be all kinda of fucked and we still consider them some kind of “default” party?
by effectively folding themselves into the Liberal Party and by infighting like incompetant children.
The Liberals aren't woke leftists. Nor are they MAGA conservatives. They're just sorta center, increasingly conservative but not particularly extreme. Not my ideal party but compared to what other countries have been electing I'd say it's kind of a relief.
Ya’ll need to pay attention, then. They’re stripping back environmental protections “for the economy” and selling our shit to private companies, laying people off in a time when it’s already incredibly difficult to get jobs, and tried to help Air Canada by butting into the flight attendant strike to make it illegal and we’re all lucky that it didn’t work. “Elbows up” lost steam immediately and then we just fell in with China instead. So much of the good they did the last time was the NDP making them do it while Canadians bitched about the NDP “not doing anything”. They’re not “increasingly conservative” they are just conservatives and they are less and less afraid of showing it each cycle.
I’m so beyond over lazy, relativistic politics. Who the hell cares if they’re better than worst from other countries when we literally have a better party right here?
There are very real reasons why someone would vote for Carney Liberals over Poilievre Conservatives, and indeed liberals over conservatives in general. It's intellectually dishonest and frankly does a disservice to yourself to overlook or dismiss these simply because you don't understand them.
For example, marginal harm matters. Even if both parties serve capital, they’re not identical in courts, rights, climate policy, labor enforcement, etc. Also, time horizons matter. “Build the NDP” is a long-term project; “prevent a worse 4 years” is a short-term project and there is little doubt that Carney is the best person for the short term project (and perhaps the best person for economic restructuring in general). Most people are capable of rationally doing both short term and long term planning and decision making. And also, finally, coalitions in our government are a reality. In Canada, minority/parliament dynamics make “vote + apply pressure” a real lever. Treating all “lesser evil” as pure self-sabotage ignores that. Many Liberal voters can acknowledge the value of the NDP while also acknowledging their shortcomings. Many Liberal voters have voted NDP in the past when it made sense strategically.
A-fucking-men to that. It frustrates me to no end that people (conservatives) don't understand that that's precisely how a minority goverment is supposed to function.
You'd watch Pierre Poppinfresh get on his stump about "collusion" between the NDP and the Liberals like it's some kind of conspiracy when in reality it's just how shit gets done. Negotiation and compromise.
The conservative party (at least those that are on the MapleMAGA spectrum) have a binary view of governning; if they're not the ones in power, they would rather not contribute to the government by negotiating and having a hand in shaping policy, because doing so would give the Liberals a "win" and that is anathema to a modern hard-C Conservative.
So instead of actually actively taking part in government, they stump around shouting at the other parties that do.
And how is the NDP supposed be built if we keep not voting for them? Are they supposed to just do a bunch of work for free for a few decades? They basically already have, and they simply got loss of official party status as a reward for that.
The Liberals aren’t just boring, they’re actively harmful. I don’t want Poilievre anywhere near power either but I’m not so naive as to believe that this battle is over, or even progressing, just because we sacrificed our values again. They’ve become very close to the conservatives we were all supposed to be afraid of back in 2021, and their trajectory is that they’re getting worse, not better. If the Liberal voters are so wise, should they not be acutely aware of this fact?
You even admit that coalitions work and, I imagine, understand that the NDP used their leverage to get Canadians things that we needed when the Liberals weren’t going to on their own. They fight for us even when they aren’t in full control. How are they supposed to form a coalition without having any seats?
It’s always “now is not the time” with you lot. It’s cowardly and weak. You’re right that it’s going to take time, so we better start now if we want to see any change in the future. Yes, it will suck for a moment, but do you really believe that the solution is to make endless excuses every single election cycle?
The NDP have a good platform, ticks my boxes, but they seem kinda incompetent to me.
And they constantly in fight and bicker over who gets to ride the highest horse.
Lol dam, straight. The NDP are like 16 year Olds who see the world through rose color glasses.
Instead of doing shit to make more jobs and better jobs, they would rather just make a bigger welfare program.
Andrea horwath , the former leader of ontario, ndp. Current mayor of hamilton. Worst fucking mayor I have ever seen. Blows a bunch of money on tiny home bulshit that flopped like old man dick. Raised property taxes in the city with the highest property tax already. Doesn't seem to understand how everyone does lunch everyday with out having catering
Why? Was it all the stuff they got done when the only power they had was a coalition government? What was it? And Carney getting stuff done is better even though the stuff being done is bad? What about the Liberals and their constant lying, scheming, and persistent disdain for the working class make them a better choice?
Are for real? You cannot honestly be that stupid, can you?
Hey friend I, and many others here, may be sympathetic to the disrespect that the NDP gets, but your hyperpartisan and absolute rejection of other parties (and similarly- framed NDP boosting) comes across poorly.
Do you honestly believe the NDP is the only honest, principled and righteous party in the country? And you believe they would stay that way when they necessarily grew their tent in order to assume power?
I'm glad we nuked the NDP. Not for this but for a leftist renewal that was impossible under Jagmeet.
That area of Edmonton has never voted in a Liberal, and now they are Liberals. I'm sure his constituency loves it.
Who cares, Carney will give Jeneroux a Senate appointment if he loses next election.
Are people really this naive about floor crossers?
Conservatives are dumb as hell, they probably don’t even realize that they’re getting the same ideology they used to vote for just under a different name.
If I could magic one seemingly small thing into the world it would be to make everyone think just a tiny bit more about what they were doing. It would be to make them vote honestly and in alignment with their ideology and not based on their past choices or party branding.
Why's Edmonton so cheap to live if its so dumb. Housing is some of the cheapest in Canada, and beats Toronto in housing completions. Maybe voting for progressives who hire Gregor Robinson as a housing minister are the dumb ones?
Because it's Edmonton.
That’s not the burn you think it is, not even fucking close. Also fucking hilarious that you think Carney is a progressive.
Well he crossed over to the Liberals, I'd agree if we had a progressive version of the NDP that would be ideal. Like if Eby ran the federal NDP.