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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 146 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Stop calling everyone a "skeptic" and call them what they are: deniers. Anti-science, fact resistant deniers. Calling people germ-theory skeptics, or climate skeptics, or vaccine skeptics, and so on and so on, makes it sound like there's an honest scientific debate going on

[–] goodeye8@fedia.io 41 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Exactly. Skepticism is about casting doubt on beliefs and dogmas, not outright rejecting facts. When it comes to germs and vaccines there's scientific consensus on those matters. They're as close to facts as you can get. But rejecting those you're not a skeptic, you're a denier. There's no scientific debate on those topics, only a political debate on whether to reject science or not.

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[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm sorry but "Germ-theory sceptic" is damaging enough considering the last one should have died in the 1800's.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 12 points 3 weeks ago

'idiots' is my preferred term. I'm in favor of calling stupid people out again. Too long has stupidity been condoned and even championed 'He tells it like it is'.

They are morons and need to be called that unabashedly.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 109 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

For real just call him a reality skeptic and be done with it.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 94 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If he gets some insane new parasite from this what are the odds it kills the one driving his brain now and takes over with a more normal personality?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Its like season 5 of Dexter when they start just re-spinning the same more and more absurd plot lines.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago

Can't tell if Dexter or Dexter's lab...

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 89 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm team bacteria on this one. C'mon little guys - do your thing!

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[–] Headofthebored@lemmy.world 69 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Usually the people in charge of regimes like this are often sadistic hypocrites and absolutely know that what they spout is bullshit. RFK jr. here on the other hand, is apparently actually a fucking idiot.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 66 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Wouldn't it be an absolute riot of a "leopards ate my face" situation if he ends up croaking because of this?

To clarify: I don't wish any harm on his grandchildren, but this man's level of willful ignorance and sheer recklessness makes it hard for me to sympathize with any negative outcome he may suffer personally.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the creek's bacterial counts—particularly E. coli counts—were dangerously high all the time.

Sorry for those children.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 51 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

How can the onion ever hope to compete with reality

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

...maybe this problem will solve itself?

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

Worm or sickness? Who will be faster! MAKE YOUR BETS NOW!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Like most con men, RFK is using people's ignorance of what odds mean. If the chance of getting sick from swimming in that water is only say one percent, he knows the odds are extremely good that he won't individually get sick, and then he will palm this off as "evidence" that it's all a big fuss over nothing. The park service might know maybe 100,000 people will swim in that water this season, so they'll probably save about a thousand from getting sick by closing the place. Even if somebody who does get sick manages to get the attention of a news outlet, they can be scoffed at as an anomaly. "How do you even know the water was responsible? Where else have you been? You're just looking for attention!"

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 41 points 3 weeks ago

The water is now less clean for having him in it

[–] SexualPolytope 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hope natural selection does its thing.

[–] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

To him: yes. To his grandkids: no. They don't deserve to get sick and possibly die just because their grandpa is an idiot.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

With modern medicine, we have switched to survival of the richest.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Funny enough not even Steve Jobs level money can save you if you prefer alternative treatments over modern medicine. Of course despite your stupidity you end up stealing a liver that actually someone else deserves more because you are stinking rich but even that does not prevent the inevitable.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Money won't do shit for you if you're too delusional to believe in modern medicine lol

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 37 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Stuff like this isn't a problem, until it is.

What was in that sewage? Anybody with typhoid? Diphtheria? Probably not because vaccination and treatment is still over herd immunity levels. Then, of course, there were the kids who used to get vaccinated for Polio naturally by exposure to untreated sewage, and us rich countries having terrible cases of polio survival in older people because we didn't bathe in toilet outflows.

Thing is, it's a numbers game. The first hundred people might not get sick, immediately, but if you form two lines, one bathing in the sewage pool and the other bathing in a treated sanitary pool, run 100 people a day through each one and track them for two weeks, you'll see the differences. That's why we have scientific publications, so we can read about these kinds of past experiments and don't have to repeat them.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I hope he gets sick and suffers

Maybe we can convince him to drink some of it

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

During similar conditions in the past it has had around 100x the EPA standard of bacterial colonies.

And he's hypocritical enough that I bet he started an antibiotic cocktail before he went there.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can someone arrest him for child endangerment?

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Lol you can't arrest a rich person, that's not how this works

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Our best chance is that he gets one of these diseases that is effectively treatable with a vaccine.

Thing is, even with that, he'd just take the vaccine and proceed to lie about it for profit. His father must be turning over in his grave.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

numerous century-old municipal sewer lines that run under the park. These lines have cracked over time and leak sewage

This is easy to fix.

Shame the article doesn't say how much the municipality is being fined every day they continue to leak raw sewage into the watershed.

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[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow this is next level stupid, i really thought it was the onion. I'd say i'm even shocked at this demonstration of stupidity, but the fact his grand children are led into this is beyond sad.

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[–] applemao@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

The fact that people have any thought that this guy is smart or a good person makes me hate humanity.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Seems like they should fix that sewage leak.

[–] h4x0r@lemm.ee 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry, but cleaning up sewage is woke and dei.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, gotcha! I'll just throw my chamber pot out the window then.👍

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 20 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm rooting for chlorea here tbh.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I love that we're literally going back in time. They thought we'd have flying cars and end world hunger, but instead we have to watch our politicians swim in shit water.

Edit: HE TOOK HIS GRANDCHILDREN!?

[–] Itwasntme223@discuss.online 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I think I know how a lot of people are thinking right about now. lol

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[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That little girl looks like she's even sick of grandpa's shit. Hair is bone dry in every photo and the only one of her actually in contact with the water, she's kicking it in his face. She honestly looks visibly upset when he's dangling her brother over it.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hopefully C Diff will catch a RFK Jr.

[–] aturtlesdream@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

If ever someone truly deserved a Herman Cain award, it's this man right here!

[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

What a shitty grandpa.

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