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10 seconds between rounds over the immortal? Easy fucking peasy to solve - let it over him once, stay in place for when you have 10 seconds to pull him out. Check-fucking-mate.

Besides, since the tram will be looping, it'll be very easy to force it to stop somehow, like derailing or putting a concrete block on the track.

Also, if our immortal friend's tissues and bones end up in the rails and the wheels, the chances of the tram failing to move increase with every trip, it might not even make it to loop 100. Also also, if, for whatever reason, one of the tram runs turns the fellow around, such that the chains end up on the track, the bump will derail the thing.

Hey I just thought of a new solution to the trolley problem. Instead of flipping the switch or not, stick an object on the tracks that derails the trolley. Guessing there's a decent chance no one dies since trolleys generally don't have the speed or intertia that a train has. The chaos option.

You wait for the train to mangle him to bits, then you quickly run over and kick his body parts off the track and then he regenerates over there somewhere.

I choose to hijack the trolley and sell it at the local chop shop for beer money.

The utilitarian framework of ethics provides an answer in this specific case, if you make an assumption about the level of suffering the people will endure while being run over by the train. If the suffering of the one man when he gets hit by the train is equal to the suffering to any one of the five men when they get hit by the train, then is makes no difference that the one man will not die. Utilitarianism states that the greatest good is human pleasure, and the greatest bad is human suffering. In this case, the one man being immortal increases his capacity to suffer, while the five men can only experience the suffering once. This means that the one man will experience human suffering equal to the five men after five cycles of the tram, which will take 50 seconds. If I wasn't sure that I could break the chain and free the one man within 50 seconds, then the correct course of action is to let the five men die because human suffering will be greater overall for this system after 50 seconds, at the cost of one unit every ten seconds. If the one man could be sedated and experience no pain until the chains could be cut, then we are effectively performing a kind of surgery on the one man, and long periods of sedation would be justified while his chains are being cut.

I choose fuck those 5 people I guess. You eventually learn the value of pain and suffering, 10.000 years is more than enough to atone for any normal crime.

Oh by gods, just derail the bloody thing!

Some of you don't understand hypothetical situations.

The choice of options are: 1x infinite suffering or 5x finite suffering.

Every other option you come up with does not work.

And in this situation, I'd say that 5x finite suffering is better since infinite is a long time.

So if you saved the immortal would the immortal go onto suffer but in different ways

Since he's immortal, some form of extreme violence like a concentrated explosion would destroy the chain quickly and free him with minimal separate regeneration cycles.

Scenario 1: It is difficult, but not impossible to free the man from his chains or otherwise disrupt the functions of the trolley. You can eventually save him, so switching the trolley to his track is morally correct.

Scenario 2: The man cannot be freed from the track, the trolley will never stop running him over, and his suffering will never end. From a purely mathematical standpoint, he will eventually experience more suffering than the mortals tied to the track, so it would be more moral to allow the trolley to kill them and end their suffering immediately. ON THE OTHER HAND, if he's immortal and can't be freed, he will also experience infinite suffering just from being forever tied to an empty track, so it's arguably no different if he's being run over or not, so it would be more moral to give him the trolley and then let the other people go free so they can go out and enjoy their lives.

Absolutely yes, because it means nothing since this scenario is impossible.

Yes because while he's dying again and again, I can find a way to derail the trolly.

Everyone should read The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas by Ursula K. Le Guin.

Some people have never had to cut through chain quickly, and it shows.

Give me 10 minutes with my cordless angle grinder and a fresh pack of cutting discs and I'll have every link cut from head to toe

Or 20 minutes with a hacksaw and I'll at least have a link cut that allows me to unravel the chain.

Or just make the immortal person Jeff bezos and I'll just call it a day?

very difficulty

those who pull the lever in omelas

Rip up the tracks, thus stalling the tram before it gets to immortal man.

Just install a switch

Negotiate with him. You'll kill the 5, but the immortal has to work for you as your personal assassin for as long as you live. Send him after billionaires.
The 5 will be remembered for their sacrifice for the greater good.